Ancient Flying Machines, is it real?

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  1. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Once more, thou speaketh the truth...ith.
     
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  3. soullust Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, We as man today, could not and do not know how the ancient People stacked pyramid stones so precisely, Even today we could not do that, I think i will makea thread on the Pyramids. There absolutly perfect.
     
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  5. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Wait a second soullust, there is a massive difference between not knowing exactly how they built it and not being able to build it.

    It's a pile of bricks in the shape of a pyramid. What could possibly be so complicated that we could not make one?
     
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  7. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    If I were you I'd check through the threads in Pseudoscience before starting a thread about that.
    It has been raised before (quite a few times) about "how perfect" the pyramids were and "we still don't know how they did it" or "we couldn't build them so precisely today".
    None of those are true.
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=101204
    for example.
     
  8. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Gimme a thousand legos and a power sander and Ill make a "perfect" pyramid.
     
  9. soullust Registered Senior Member

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    Nice, yeah i am about to bring this thread back to life again. I really should check more often for old threads b4 starting a new...hmmm, I just wasn't around long enough..yet.

    Dude, I would love to see it

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    At the scale of the great pyramids though.
     
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  10. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    welthe london bridge is not that miracle, also the empire state buidling is a wonder of it's time, but not today, also, i readed once about how did they build the pyramids, guess what, not by stones, or huge stons moved by slaves, but by, those maden rocks, from send+water+... and let them in a shape so they take it's form, the pyramids are praticly built like that. and not by ""aliens..."", well, i'll try to find you the link.
     
  11. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    neverathe link, you know it, bricks, and that shape to give them the shape to build pyramids+heat, but not huge rocks mooved from the other side of teh river...
     
  12. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    me too, when it's don, show us some pictures

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    it's ok you can ask help from your friends

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  13. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread. Sorry, if I've missed it, but I have a question about the adoration/exhultation of bees in high ranking cultural figures like Napoleon. Before Napo, the Egyptian pharaohs had them as figures of wonder.

    "The Bee was the symbol of immortality and resurrection, the bee was chosen so as to link the new dynasty to the very origins of France. Golden bees (in fact, cicadas) were discovered in 1653 in Tournai in the tomb of Childeric I, founder in 457 of the Merovingian dynasty and father of Clovis. They were considered as the oldest emblem of the sovereigns of France."

    http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/symbols/index.asp

    http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/bee1_1.html

    Did music originate from the sound of bees abuzz?

    My point in the investigation of bees in nature and culture is that bees had a great influence in many societies. When you look at them, they kind of resemble modern aircraft.

    "An intriguing source for the genesis of Bee symbolism in Egyptian mythology is the Eastern Egyptian Desert (EED) – a desolate expanse of Wadi’s stretching eastward from Luxor to the Red Sea. The seldom visited land is renowned for its pre-dynastic rock art, etched on barren cliff sides and isolated rock faces. The region has quietly emerged as a leading candidate for Egypt’s pre-dynastic origins, and may hold vital clues as to the genesis of Bee symbolism in Egyptian society."

    http://andrewgough.co.uk/bee1_2.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_(mythology)

    "...in ancient Egyptian religion, sacred bull deity worshipped at Memphis. The cult of Apis originated at least as early as the 1st dynasty (c. 2925–c. 2775 bce). Like other bull deities, Apis was probably at first a fertility god concerned with the propagation of grain and herds, but he became associated with Ptah, the paramount deity of the Memphite area, and also with Osiris (as User-Hapi) and Sokaris, gods of the dead and of the underworld."

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/29660/Apis

    http://www.scholarlyarticles.org/science/24497.html

    I believe that ancient bee mythology is about flying machines. But that's just me.
     
  14. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    It's a fun idea

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    But flying is so much fun, I doubt that we could ever let the experience and the technology slip into obscurity. It's related to the problem I have with all the various theories of extraterrestrial contact too. Between cultures, whenever there is contact with another civilization possessing technological advantages, there is revolutionary, irreversible, and indelibly historic change. It is a fun theory/daydream to me, though.

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  15. Ambrose Mason Obsidian Gael Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps hang glider type things, but a plane as we know it? I don't think so.
     
  16. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Just because something is on a history book doesn't make it true.

    ie. I could easily name two places in a textbook where it was wrong.

    1. The battle of Midway was not the pivotal battle of the war against Japan, the battle of Guadalcanal was.

    2. Many textbooks state that the Americna losses at the Battle of the Coral sea was just a single "disabled" aircraft carrier. That carrier was scuttled, they make it sound like it got hit by a machine gun bullet and was otherwise unscathed.
     
  17. Ambrose Mason Obsidian Gael Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you!
     
  18. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    A history book or a crackpot-written "let's make a lot of money from gullible fools who don't know (or care) about real history" type badly-researched, ignore-the-facts, invent an outrageous theory book?
    I suspect the latter.
     
  19. Ambrose Mason Obsidian Gael Registered Senior Member

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    I like to think that that you can trust a textbook more than this, but I know that time and time again history is altered if not rewritten altogether. Hell, the impact of history can be changed drastically by simply leaving something out.
    Boo.
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    That would depend on whether orientantique meant a history textbook (as approved for schools) or just "a book about history".
    For the latter and trustworthiness try reading (or avoiding

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    ) anything by Graham Hancock, Erich von Daniken, Zecharia Sitchin et al...

    Some books simply aren't worth the paper they're written on.
     
  21. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Also add to the list 50% of the shows on the History channel, that channel has become filled to the brim with pseudoscientists. It disgusts me. "Ancient Aliens" what bullsh1t. (excuse my language).

    And Id like to know which history books exactly say it if orientantique doesnt mind.
     
  22. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Yah like the battle of Guadalcanal.

    When it was happening everybody knew where Guadalcanal was, they could easily point it out on a map. The battle was on every major headlines during it's time. The 1st marine division on the island was known as "the heroes of Guadalcanal".

    That battle more so than any other decided the outcome of the Pacific war. It was the first major allied offenssive against the Japanese.

    Nowadays you'd be lucky to find somebody that can even find the damned island on a map. :bawl:
     
  23. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    haha, i can't beleive this threat is still on,

    case, fnished,
    result: negative, no ancient aircrafts
     

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