Sarcasm punctuation mark aims to put an end to email confusion

Er, examples of getting a laugh at someone's expense.

Wrong again: provided someone knows it's sarcasm it works. Not necessarily the recipient, but the perpetrator and other listeners would make it work.

Once again you miss the point: those are examples of the fact that humour usually comes at someone else's expense.

SHE didn't need to realise it was sarcasm for US to find it funny.
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I guess this is a circumstance where I should have used a tongue-in-cheek symbol.

Absolute nonsense. If writers only ever wrote with the lowest common denominator of reader in mind, the rest of us wouldn't enjoy reading nearly as much. In order to take sarcasm to a level that more intelligent people can appreciate, you're necessarily going to leave some people behind.

 

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Would you approve if the Ku Klux Klan used that same reasoning for their vile, hateful, nasty, derogatory speeches about blacks? "Oh, no, that wasn't hate speech, that was sarcasm taken to a higher level of intelligence, that's all."

Again, ....if people don't recognize it as sarcasm, then it's nothing more than hate speech. Remember, the person hearing or reading the words is the judge of whether it's "hate speech" or whether it's "sarcasm" ....and if he's the one holding the gun, the speaker had best be very careful in his use of words.

Baron Max

 

What's the difference, then, between "hate speech" and "sarcasm"?

If, at a gathering of people, one person stands up on the platform and begins using sarcasm in talking about blacks and slavery, using nasty, vile, comments about blacks ...it's funny, it's sarcasm, to some people, right? I mean, KKK members would probably be laughing their asses off, right? So according to you, that makes it sarcasm .....even if the blacks in the audience thinks it's hate speech. So when the FBI come to investigate, all the speaker has to say is "Geez, agent, it was just a little friendly sarcasm ....no big deal. Sorry that all those blacks got pissed off and called you. Just fun, just humor, just a little innocent sarcasm, that's all."

What's the difference, then, between "hate speech" and "sarcasm"?

Baron Max

 

You tell me.
What's the difference between using a banana skin and assault with intent?
What's the difference between "An Englishman, an Irishman and Frenchman walked into a bar..." and racism?
What's the difference between blonde jokes and sexism?

When it comes down to it you can class virtually anything as hate speech/ racism/ whatever.
Depends how PC you want to get.

 

Baron Max walks into a bar.

"Baron Max!"

'Yeah whatever pal"

"I'll have a beer, ...Baron Max!"

"Yeah, good onya, that'll be Seven bucks.....SEVEN BUCKS..chuckle!"

"Seven Bucks!?. Baron Max!"

"That's right Baron Max, seven bucks, Baron Max, SEVEN BUCKS!"

"Baron Max, Seven Bucks!?, are you serious....Baron Max!"

"nah, only jokin'.


You Americans really, really, really don't get it do you?

 

Well, I hear that you're a moderator here now. So, if there's no difference between sarcasm and hate speech, if I start using sarcasm here on the forums in regard to blacks, will you promise to support me when James R threatens to ban me?

Baron Max

 

Yep, all Americans are exactly, precisely the same and have exactly, precisely the same sense of humor as well as level of intelligence.

Baron Max

 

Wait a moment.

Baron Max makes a post with a hint of sarcasm apparent.

Baron Max, you're quite funny.

 

No, no, no, not at all, just the same sense of sarcasm. Bit like a foreskin, surgically removed at birth.

 

I am from the English Midlands.
Everything we say is sarcastic, and we don't need any stupid symbol for it.

The last time I wasn't sarcastic was 1974, and that was because I had a fever.
What I said then was "The blue helicopters. Stop them. Stop them"
See. Not sarcastic at all.


But truly.
I am never sarcastic with my doctor.
I am never sarcastic with friends when discussing personal matters.
In business, I do not joke with my customers.

Apart from that, pretty much always.

 

Oh, you didn't read it?

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No difference?
Wherever did you get the idea I wrote (or even implied) that?

 

Wel there's a purple patch you should start to explore.

Rich territory.

 

Ever tried sarcasm on the French?

Talk about your lead balloon.

 

Now that is sarcasm.
I thought Americans didn't get sarcasm.

 

It was a poor attempt at best.

 

I often have to resist the temptation, but when I know that things are really important, I make a special effort to say exactly what I mean without irony. It's hard for me, but I manage it.

 

Yes, it would have been better if he didn't put "All Americans" in bold, but it was a gallant attempt.:bravo:

 

So when the doc says " it's probably just a benign tumour on your left nut, I think we can remove it " you respond with a straight face?