Firefox 3.5.6 sucks

Discussion in 'Computer Science & Culture' started by wynn, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you. Yes, it appears the OS is damaged. I don't have the Windows cd's, it's a preloaded computer, and I'm not the only person using it - so it'll probably take me a while to get things moving.

    Is there anything else I can do in the meantime? I already ran Windows defender and the antivirus program several times.
     
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  3. Henrik77 Registered Senior Member

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    It looks OK with me, though..:shrug:
     
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  5. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    No, the OS is corrupted.

    Windows, the major flaw with it that not many are able to grasp, is that it self corrupts. In the normal daily use of the Windows OS Windows will self corrupt, it happens on every system, every time.

    The problems you, and so many others, describe on internet forums are telltale signs of 'OS rot' on Windows.

    If the OS on the system is legit, you can contact the manufacturer and they will send you another copy of the OS discs for a small fee, sometimes free.

    You're gonna need to repair that OS to get it back to a reasonable state. But the nature of Windows is such that only a format of the drive and a re-install of Windows will fully repair and install. So start backing up your data now, and plan on a format and re-install at some point in the future.
     
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  7. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I am now having some problems with FireFox on one of my laptops - the only one that's 64 bit OS Win Vista Pro. I notice that it will not run the program when I click on it. If I click Taskmanger it doesn't list Firefox as an application that is running but does list it as a process running "firefox *32" if I end process and then go back and click to open the firefox program it opens and works as normally. No problems on the other computers and they are 32 bit XP and Vista.
     
  8. Joaquin Sleuth Registered Senior Member

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    The constant crashing is extremely annoying.
     
  9. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I have begun with the backup.

    It is strange though - the computer has worked smoothly for years, but then as soon as I downloaded the new Firefox, the problems began.
     
  10. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Did you try Restoring back a point of two??
     
  11. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I don't understand? You mean going to an older version of Firefox?
     
  12. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    No.

    I meant rolling back to a Restore point.

    You said everything was OK before you installed the updated FF, so why not just roll the OS back?
     
  13. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know how to do that?
     
  14. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Ah.

    Start/Control Panel

    Make sure you're in 'Category View'.

    Performance and Maintenance

    On the left side, under 'See Also', you should see 'System Restore'

    Once you select that, a new window should open up: 'Welcome to System Restore'.

    You want to select 'Restore my computer to an earlier time'

    From there, you just pick a restore point, previous to your update of FF.

    Now, all of this assumes that you do in fact have System Restore running.
    By default, it usually is....
     
  15. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    It's also very bad with Flash. You open up Flash and gradually you have 500-750MB of memory eaten.
     
  16. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    There is usually some event that pushes a broken OS 'over the edge'. Firefox may or may not have been that, but it certainly could have been.

    A restore point will not help you btw.
     
  17. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Curious Dr M,

    Why would you say that?
    I've successfully recovered from a number of annoying FF problems by doing so...

    Then again, I wasn't simultaneously experiencing any OS problems...
    Do we even know if Signal is in fact having such?
     
  18. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    Yes Signal has a corrupted OS.

    All a restore point does is simply copy an older version of the registry back into place as the active registry.

    It will only help with registry-based problems.

    Most people think you are actually converting your OS back, or whole computer back, all sorts of ideas float around.

    Any more restore points are not all that useful frankly. People think they help with malware too, but virtually all malware/virus writers infect all the restore points first thing out of the gate.

    They will help with a corrupted registry and that's about it. Yes that can be helpful, but not as helpful, or as common, as many people think.

    Any Windows OS that has been in use for a year or more is corrupting itself. That's just the fact of it. It's one of the many reasons I call Windows a 'toy OS', it's pretty to look at and fun, but it's child's play as an operating system. It self corrupts, has a registry so lightweight programmers can pump out apps, and fragments the file system on disk. What a joke.

    I always suggest to friends that they run an 'sfc /scannow' at least twice a year.
     
  19. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    How do we know that?

    Yep. I knew that. I used to just turn it off after a clean install, but it has come in handy once or twice, so now I just set it on my primary drive, with just enough space for 2 points.


    Indeed. There's nothing quite like a nice clean install.
    Which reminds me how difficult things are going to be for me with respect to my new box I'm building. I'm having a hell of a time finding a current MB that will allow me to still use a floppy drive.....


    Curious; I've never heard of that.
    What is that process?
    And how do I do it? [I'm assuming it's a command line run??]
     
  20. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    Every question you just asked is answered earlier this thread.

    Try reading the thread before asking questions about it, you know?
     
  21. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Not quite.

    In post #13 you simply decided that his OS was corrupt, without any verification.

    It's been my experience with computers, that the best way to solve a problem is to identify it first.
     
  22. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    I see you're a tad slow on the uptick.

    Keep reading. Maybe past post #13... you know, the whole thread, as I mentioned earlier.
     
  23. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Did that.
    Yep, no confirmation whatsoever.
    Nothing but speculation.

    tick.. tick..
     
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