History of the Holocaust

SAM are you really that Obtuse?

 

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Native Americans don't carry passports, if they get one they get it from the United States...then it's the same color. Mine is a different color than the British one though

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The 2000 picture.

 

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So if the US was occupied by foreigners with a different culture, language and religion, what would you recommend Americans do?

Why are there different coloured ID cards for Palestinians from different parts of their own land? Who determines if Palestinian refugees can enter Palestine? Can Palestinian refugees settle in the independent state of Gaza?

 

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- Probably because Gaza hasn't formed a centralized agency.
- I don't know.

 

How does this explain why East Jerusalem Palestinians have blue cards, but West Bank Palestinians have orange [Israeli issued] or green [PA issued]?

Could you find out? I am curious to know if Palestinian refugees are allowed into Gaza if they wish to return home. If Hamas, their elected government can issue them maroon ID cards and if they can be registered in Israeli refgistries of Palestinian population [which are required to prove their "existence"]

 

SAM, what if don't count.

Maybe you should ask that question of the Germans, Italians, or the Japanese, or even those cultures crushed by Islamic expansions, or even India.

Ask the Palestinian Authority? maybe Jordan? or even Egypt? they are the ones who issues Pass Ports for Palestinians and control who enters and leaves
Palestine.

 

So if Gazans leave, can they return to their independent state with their elected government?

Then you support the Chinese occupation of Tibet, your advice to people already under occupation is "get used to it"?

 

Ask the Gazans.

 

I'm asking the people who declare Gaza as an independent state free from occupation. I already know that the Americans pay a puppet in Egypt to keep Rafah closed and that the Israelis do not allow those without maroon ID cards [issued by Israel or green cards issued by their paid puppets in the PA] to enter Gaza.

I'm wondering how the people decrying/denying the two year blockade of Gaza and the recent massacre of a population which was locked in and not permitted to leave during the massacre, collate these realities with their assertions.

Its like saying the Warsaw ghetto was an independent state because the kapos were all Jews.

 

Gaza was a part of Egypt and he West Bank was a part of Jordan .
Geese the real Palestine is what is now Israel .

 

the Israelites have a history there mike. their roots are very easily traceable.

 

A few more improvements, and Gaza will have attained Homeland status as good as the Apartheid states had bordering old South Africa.

Something for the Palestinian to look forward to, no doubt.

 

mike, do you have a history there?

 

maybe you just like turmoil and strife.

 

I never said universal recognization but merely a recognizion. A peaceful path opened to them and they took it. a peaceful path doesn't yet exist for the Palestinians.

No buffalo they aren't merely arabs they are palestinians who have a right to live in their homeland more so than a bunch of people who turned their backs on the land.

Still eating up the propaganda I see. Israel has no rights illegitiatimite but even so the palestinians recognized as having rights. They have recognized Israel. Its far past time for Israel to get on board with peace for the palestinians have been there waiting for a while.

So in other words cede their rights to the Israelis and its supporters and their blind hatred. Fat chance. They survived the crusades and the turks they will survive Israel.

 

No they had a history there which they turned their back on and only mattered to them when they felt they needed it.

 

the have a history there. how, according to you, did they turn their back on it? whatever that is supposed to mean.

 

Well for 1700 years they did nothing to claim said history. They never tried to return( and don't give that fucking bullshit they couldn't afford it the managed to afford to get Europe) they never tried to make a claim. You try and obtain and lay claim to what matters to you.

 

but you are against that.

 

because they waited so long. If through out that 1700 year dearth they would have even gone and just said this(palestine) is our homeland every 2 or 3 generations or so I wouldn't have had a problem with it but they didn't. hell the first time anyone brought up a new jewish state in palestine it was napolean. 1600 years or so and not even a jew.