History of the Holocaust

Discussion in 'History' started by S.A.M., Sep 28, 2009.

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  1. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    As far as I can tell, S.A.M.'s ideas about Native Americans (and many other aspects of America besides) are mostly extrapolations/projections of her ideas about other issues (European colonialism, the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, the Holocaust, Apartheid, etc.). Note that she rarely addresses the subject on its own terms, rather than as a rhetorical bludgeon when discussing one of her pet issues (like in this thread).

    Predictably, this makes for something of a muddle.
     
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  3. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    How would you address the subject on its own terms? By dissociating it from all other forms of segregation, ethnic cleansing and colonialism?

    You may be interested in a book called "The Geography of thought"

    Clearly your education leaves a lot to be desired.
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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  8. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    You'd start by learning the relevant history and facts on their own, in a holistic way. Rather than this piece-meal search for pretexts to equate it to some other situation.

    The main thing is that the comparative history portion of your project needs to come after you learn the basic history of the subject. To get a real grip on the subject, you need to put your agenda aside, at least for a while.

    Already familiar with it. My girlfriend is a psychologist, and Asian. Don't see the relevance here, though.
     
  9. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Although Palestinians had nothing to do with the holocaust they suffered too much on the hands of the Jews . Also it is well known fact that Hitler and his Nazis were Christinians .
     
  10. John99 Banned Banned

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    your not qualified to answer these questions. mussolini was an atheist (like his dad) and hitler was and atheist but he dabbled in the occult. i dont think that really matters though.
     
  11. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Italy and Germany were and are Christian nations . Saying otherwise is contrary to reality .
     
  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    so was the u.s and britain, amongst others.
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    oops never mind.
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Mussolini wasn't a Nazi and Hitler wasn't atheist as far as anyone knows - "dabbling in the occult" is not a common atheistic pastime, neither is Catholic or Pagan mysticism an atheistic underpinning of one's ideology.

    The Holocaust was a theistic phenomenon, on all sides. All the central players had Gods.
     
  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Oh? How so? My interpretation of your remarks seems pretty accurate, at least. You are free to correct my false impressions, of course. I would suggest doing it forthrightly so as to avoid more 'confusion'.

    As for my apparent 'lack of education'...

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  16. mike47 Banned Banned

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    So Christians were killing Christinians and now they are killing Muslims in both Iraq and Afghanistan : it seems there is no end to this craziness of Christians killings.......:shrug: .
    As far as the Jews are concerned they keep reminding everyone of the holocaust while they make the lives of the human Palestinians hell on earth.....how hypocritical and how sad.....:shrug: .
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    And Muslims are killing Christians, Jews and each other. The holy wars never stop in the name of god. Fucking religions.
     
  18. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Wrong my little chap :
    Nowadays wars are fought NOT for religions but for resources and military domination . Please follow the current events in the world .
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Chickens have lips, too.

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  20. John99 Banned Banned

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    i already told you, Hitler was not a Christian and neither was Mussolini. This is all common knowledge. You can trace musolinnin's roots back to his atheist father who he emulated. It is also well known that hitler killed more christians than anything else.

    i dont say that religion motivated these people or lack of religion or anything they believed in. Hitler was into mysticism but who cares? your too preoccupied with religion.
     
  21. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, sadly this seems to be true friend Q.

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  22. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Just because something is used as the justification doesn't mean its the reason why the war is happening.
     
  23. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    hitler was christian and Musolinni needed the church to control Italy.
     
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