Theism is Primitive Thinking

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actually it does because science is from the Latin , scientia , to know

 

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One can know without a sense of wonder. And it is this knowing that is the focus of science. Science does not preclude wonder, but wonder is extraneous to science.

 

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why do think that just " knowing " is the focus of science ?

actually the best scientists do , wonder

 

Because science is a system for gaining knowledge (not for example wonder). And emotions are seen, generally, in science as potentially distorting. On your free time, of course, you free to wonder, but it is not a part of the scientific process. If you look up empiricism or double blind studies or scientific methodology you will not find 'wonder'.

This is an equivocation.

I was under the impression we were talking about the 'sense of wonder' not what you are now saying which means to question/consider possibilities. Same word, though now a verb and with a different meaning.

 

agreed

how unfortunate this is

 

to wonder is to wonder and to be free without any knowledge to do so

but ;

one cannot also wonder without the ability to also question/consider other possibilities of that which is already known

I have done both

 

Mod Hat,

To all,

Feel free to get back on topic.
It would be a shame to close this thread now....

 

fire, wheel, prostitution, politics, pottery, hunting, gathering, agriculture, story telling, clothes, war ...

 

Sun worship....do theists consider that idea primitive?

 

I understand your argument but don't you feel bad that your going against your ansesters belief. Sure the evolution theory may not have been discovered back then but how can you be so sure that they would have chosen it to back themselves up in their reglion of atheism?

 

So we should also feel bad for not believing in Zeus?
Or witches?

Atheism isn't a religion.

 

Not the theists who are sunworshippers, many of whom did not think it was literal, just as many Christians do not think God is a white guy with a beard. Though the majority probably does in the latter case.

 

no matter how you slice it , theism is primitive thinking

just a concept to ease yourself through life

yet 200,000 yrs ago we had no " theism " and our ancestors got through

maybe it shows that the more advanced society becomes the weaker , mentally , they become generally

 

ok well how about this. The three main religions have a book to back them up which is physical proof. What physical proof does the evolution theory have?

 

Er, how do you make out that a book is physical proof?

Well if you consider a book to be proof have you tried a library?
Or maybe tried learning?

 

genetic proof

and the thing about genetic proof is that , its not about theory , but empirical proof and there is lots of it

 

So theism isn't primitive enough.

 

Is there proof for this? I didn't know the fossil record had fossilized belief and not just the physical material.

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so atheism is even more primitive than theism! HA your own words!!

they have no genetic proof...