Tide turning on Circumcision, Push to circumcise all male infants

When they got a cut or injury, they would go to an ant's nest and stir it up with a cloth. Then they would shake all the ants off and wrap the wound with the cloth. Scientists now know that ants use a special gland to produce an anti-bacterial liquid which prevents disease and infection from spreading through ant colonies. And yet primitive people discovered it on their own.

 

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Which is why its probably the Egyptians who discovered it.

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http://www.d.umn.edu/~mcco0322/history.htm

 

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So there's an "enormous risk" in letting your child grow up with an uncircumcised penis?

Not arguing for routine circumcision? Why say there's a huge risk in not circumcising, then say you probably wouldn't do it to your son?

It's his own body. He should have the right to grow up and, if he wishes, choose to always use condoms, stay monogamous, and make sure the person he is having sex with is healthy, rather than have something cut off him when he cannot consent to it.

 

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I call bullshit. It seems very, very unlikely to me that the tiny amount of antibacterial material that would be on the cloth from such a procedure would have any significant effects. Do you have any sources to indicate that this actually works?

 

Uh...did you read your own link? It says the Egyptians did it for religious/ritualistic reasons.

 

Ponericins.

 

And? Everything the Egyptians did was rooted in magic, including medicine.

 

And so they probably had no idea there were health benefits. If they had know about health benefits, they would probably have done it to everyone rather than just the priests.

 

What about the midwest, which has the highest rate of circumcision @ 80% and has seen no recent decline despite the fact that there are very few Jews there? Also, 42 is "aged"? What is this, Logan's Run?

 

Here's the documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8D2B0FE1EE8C6D05

 

You might consider the vast cultural differences between Japan and the US. Also, guess who has the lowest rate of circumcision and the highest rate of HIV? Blacks. Blacks, which make up only 13% of the population account for 50% or new HIV infections and 42% of new AIDS cases. I don't have time right now to check, but I wonder how the HIV rate in the western US (with the lowest percent of cut males) compares with the rate in the east and midwest?

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What! :bugeye: Non-circumcised men do not stink down below. They pull back the foreskin when they shower and clean the damn thing.

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Never heard such nonsense, as for enjoyment during sex its more enjoyable than a penis without its cloaking device.


SAM when did you have occasion to see an uncircumcised penis?

 

Yeah the cultural difference is the use of condoms. The same cultural difference exists between black americans and their white peers, not using a condom. There is some sort of taboo surrounding using condoms among many black americans, so wa la STIs for everyone. In prevention pamphlets they hand out, they say use a condom not remove ur foreskin, because let's face it circumcisied men can get HIV by having sex with an infected person too. Both circumsiced and uncircumcised men need to wear condoms to prevent transmission. That's like telling women if they stand up after sex they won't get pregnant, while the risk is slightly reduced, this should not be a woman's form of birth control, nor should a circumcised penis be a substitute for a condom.

 

Little infants have no choice . Their parents choose their names, their ways of life . This is what families are, were and will be .

 

Sumerians.

 

Is it that unbelievable? Lots of old folk remedies actually work, regardless if those folks knew why it worked or not. I mean cobwebs do cause blood to clot faster and making pregnant women upset is bad for their baby.

 

That's right, they didn't have to know what bacteria were, they only had to know it worked.

 

Except in both those instances they can change it if they don't like things as they stand. Many people change their names and lifestyles, but regrowing body parts is a different matter, if you change your mind later.

 

I say we take care of the gunk under the head of our junk.

Be it circumcision, frequent masturbation, or actually showering every other week; we have to prevent foul cheese smells from wafting into public.