cocaine is not physically addictive either, psycholigical addictions can be just as bad. mj is NOT a pain reliever. afa the other things go, you already said it causes paranoia and that is a widely known fact. i am not saying it is all that bad compared to other drugs but i cant sit here and tell people it is good either...because it isnt. also most people are not equipped to deal with newer strains of weed that are very potent. this is very different from homegrown in 1975. its all about justification. if you have to make stuff up to justify something then it isnt good.
On any given day, more than 700,000 people in the United States receive alcoholism treatment in either inpatient or outpatient settings...:m:
i'm not making anything up here, and am not sure why it is you're being so arguementative. they prescribe marijuana to aids and cancer patients for a reason. those are reasons i have cited here. i haven't lived with chronic pain, but have known someone who did, and smoking weed helped him cope with the mental and emotional effects of living in chronic pain. i myself know that it definitely relieves nausea. and in regards to anxiety, maybe i'm not using the right term, but several years ago, i went through something that caused me an immense amount of frustration and stress, and i know, that smoking marijuana allowed me to get through the day, and to function...keep my job and income and my home and from completely wigging out. if i had not had that to help me, i would had to go to the doctor and get some valium or some other pill to get me through. when the stress and frustration that i was experiencing diminished over time, i no longer felt the need to smoke marijuana, and had absolutely no addiction or withdrawal to deal with, like i would have had with valium or some other pharmaceutical.
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund Yes... an i know people who smoked it ever day but coud quit any time the wanted to... they jus never wanted to i supose Several years ago i saw a documentary on young people an pot use... this chubby 12 year old girls grades had gone to hell an she said she wants to stop smokin it but she cant an then started bawlin... poor kid... emagine tryin to do good at school an hooked on pot.!!! I thank the message kids get to often about pot is that its no big deal cause it ant phsycaly addictive... an dont get enuff of the message that it may very well change you'r life in a directon you wont be hapy wit.!!! Yes... real medical reasons... but i dout that it inhances the long term happynes of people (of any age) who use it on a regular basis.!!!
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. Cannabis does have proven effects on pain and nausea and anxiety, even if it is possibly a type of placebo effect. I have chronic pain which causes nausea and insomnia and if I smoke a little somethin' every now and then I feel soooo much better that it's actually shocking to me. It makes me furious that it is illegal, especially since to get the same amount of relief legally I would have to take all sorts of pharmaceuticals that are manafactured chemicals and addictive!! Actually, if one quits smoking, health will improve and the body will heal some of the damage done, it just takes a lot longer; up to 10-15 years. But immediate changes do occur if one does quit. Within weeks, taste and smell will improve, as well as lungs.
So now it is a placebo effect? you can get more\better pain relief from an aspirin. many pharmaceutical drugs are way ahead of mj. there are millions of people who would not be alive were it not for pharmaceutical drugs. i have never been prescribed mediaction except for antibiotics but i had severe pain from a sinus infection and broken bones and mj wouldnt do anything for that kind of pain at all. some people like smoking weed, some like drinking. there are striking similarities between the two and why people use them. now for mental health issues, i dont know. it is self medicating though. if you want to say, 'well it isnt that bad (mj) to me and i enjoy it' then that is something different.
There are more deaths from alcohol than smoking because far more people drink than they do smoke. Small amounts of wine have also been proven to be beneficial, while cigarettes can never be. Plus diseases like liver disease that are associated with heavy drinking often have a lower mortality rate than smoking-related diseases like lung cancer (which has something like a 8% survival rate after 5 years).
I don't drink or smoke, but I think the only real difference is one has been given a bad rep, while the other hasn't at the moment. Neither is good for you, but people have their crutches and addictions, be they minor or major so they consume these drugs anyway. The whole wine being good for you thing is just an excuse to drink alcohol when you could get the same nutrition from drinking grape juice or eating grapes. Personally I don't get what's so great about either drug. The obvious negatives outweigh the postives, at least for me.
You start by comparing MMJ to cocaine.. why not compare it to opium. Which is a much better general pain reliever. and.. Then you mention numbers of MJ anxiety .....dependency ..treatment So I looked for Numbers of alcohol... btw that 700,000 a day is a very dated figure. So John... what percentage of those seeking MJ addiction solutions are youth?
My grandfather smoked till he was 80 something years old, granted he had an oxygen tank, but the simple fact of the matter is this. Living in most major cities is equivalent to smoking about a pack a day just walking around. Now that's bad. So picture this, a non smoker could actually be doing more damage to themselves by living in the city without an air purification machine of some type than a smoker with a means of air purification in their home. So smoking is really not the real issue. Purifying the air around us should be a main concern. Drinking is horrible, it actually feeds the yeast imbalance that most of us unconsciously live with everyday. It's sad. Cancer, bone disease, all of that is directly linked to candida, the one disease/ condition doctors are not REQUIRED (so they don't) report deaths for. It's true, doctors are not required to report fungal based deaths no matter what. Correct your yeast imbalances folks, and it won't matter if you smoke 2 packs of cigarettes per day. You will be healthy as a clam.
i would have to disagree with that, because when you drink too much too often, your face and skin ages, also your teeth are damaged, (and you cannot replace your real teeth, ok you can get dentures but they are not YOUR teeth) and if you drink too much too often you end up being unresponsive to other people, Drinking can cause fighting and even death, i am sorry but i have not ever heard of someone being killed in a fight because they have smoked too many cigarettes, i personally think drinking does more damage to society, i don't drink any more (i haven't drank for nearly 4 months now) and even in this short space of time i feel so much better, i also don't smoke (i did i used to smoke almost 40 a day)
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Okay, the external affects, agreed. But I'm pretty much sure that the damage caused to the liver and other internal organs is nullified after time. The behavioral problems don't extend much beyond being drunk. Of course, alcoholics are socially schizoid, but that too is cured once the addiction is.
it is a tough call. i agree we are talking apples and orages here and it is difficult to make a precise determination. i thought the thread was 'smoking AND drinking'.
