Are you for or against spanking kids ?.

Giant freaking pussy. Maybe if you spank him more often he gets used to it.... That's why I call these kids the whiny-pussy generation.

Also probably not very smart, because I assume you were right when administered the punishment, so he should have got the picture...

 

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I don't get why it's such a big deal. Spanking is only bad if done to the extreme, just like any other punishment is bad if done to the extreme. Like yesterday we found out that one of the kids I look after hadn't eaten in days, because his aunt takes away food whenever he misbehaves. There is a huge difference between no cake tonight and no breakfast, lunch, and dinner today. Had to call social services and it was all a big mess. A smack on the butt won't kill you're kid, but punching them in the face might; taking away video game privledges is discipline, taking away bathroom privledges is cruel (true story). Unfortunately for too many children their parents don't know where the line is.

 

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You are completely Wrong and you fall to the media crap easily . We are talking about real life matters and not TV shows .

 

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I think the few times he did I was 5/6 and I was just being weird rather than naughty. You know how kids do that thing called echolalia, where they hear a phrase and repeat it out of context?

I had a favourite phrase that I'd heard someone else say, 'I don't want nothing.' I was repeating this for fun and he decided I was being "rude" and flipped like a motherfucker.

Then there was the time I was on the loo and he asked me to do something, and I said 'I'm taking a dump. Do I have to get angry with you?' The 'do I have to get angry with you' part was, again, echolalia. I'd heard the phrase somewhere and decided I liked it...Which he was well aware of, but liked nothing better than an excuse to have a nuclear meltdown.

This guy was a piece of shit though. Screaming fits all the time over tiny little things, taking out his frustration at my brother's diagnosis on my mother...His new wife thinks he also has autism, but I think she's just making excuses, he has no autistic symptoms at all. Thank fuck we got rid of him when I was 11.

Oh I never did that in front of my mother, only when it was just me and ass-hole. I had plenty respect for my mother, though she never had to use violence to earn it.

 

Sounds like he was an asshole....sorry you had to go through that. Didn't your mother ever witness how he was treating you and step in?

I know for damn sure I certainly would have stepped in. There is no way I would let some man abuse my kids. Did she finally wise up to what an asshole he was and give him the boot?

Luckily for me after my divorce and I met Nietzschefan. He has always been great with my kids. I think you are pretty lucky if you find someone who steps into an instant family and treats the kids like their own.

 

Yup, she did. He did this to everyone, once shoved my mother and went to punch her but got control of himself...

He also once actually tried to punch my brother in the face when he was a baby. My mother yanked him out of the way though...

Hence, he's gone.

 

Well that good he is long gone. Some women stay with that until something tragic happens. Was he a drinker?

 

I agree and with the rest you said. There shouldn't even be a thread about this...

 

whatever. Speaking from experience, I know that what Nanny911 and Supernanny show works.
Are you saying that rules and consistent punishments don't work for your kids so you have to assault them? At what age did this kind of punishment begin?

 

1 : I never said that I have or I haven't kids .
2 : you seem to make this debate a personal one while I look at it in general terms .
3 : I am interested in this issue because I know parents who are suffering from their kids behaviours .
4 : Not all kids are the same .

 

Mike you made it personal when you said I fall for media crap. Its not crap. It works for me and my kids. Kids with no rules and no boundaries are hellions. Its not kids who aren't spanked that are hellions.

 

I love how the occasionally spanking when everything else fails is immediately called
ASSAULT....lol

Picking up an object and hitting your child is assault.

Beating them black and blue is assault.

Giving them a couple of smacks on their bottom is not what I would call assault.

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No, picking up a child and hitting an object is an assault.

 

Yup. And not a nice pisshead either...

 

Spanking is assault, like grounding is detaining someone against their will, like taking away your kid's PS3 is stealing. There are things you can do to your kids that you can't do to other adults, sucks being a kid.

 

It's stealing huh? Who paid for those things in the first place in most cases?

 

Parents can't take gifts back that is uncivilized.

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That's just silly. You speak as though spanking is a horrible thing. As I said, when I was a kid I'd much rather be spanked than grounded. Spanking is a very effective method of disipline for young children, like Bell's 2 year old. She found another lever to use, but probably could have also solved the problem by spanking the kid just a bit harder.

My father had a similiar experience with me as a child. I was very young, still in diapers and I reached for a cookie that, for whatever reason, I wasn't supposed to have. My father said "No, you can't have that cookie". I looked him in the eye, grabbed the cookie, and took a bite. He said, "Put down that cookie or you're getting a spanking". I again looked him in the eye and took another bite. So he gave me a smack on the bottom. I just kept eating. So he spanked me a bit harder. Again, I ignored him and reached for another cookie. He, like Bells, was getting kind of worried. So finally he spanked me pretty damned hard and I put down the cookie and started crying. Point made. No harm done.

The thing is, you must be consistent. You must not make empty threats. Two year olds have few privileges you can take away, but you must discipline them somehow. Because if you can't control your child at age 2, what's going to happen when he's 16? Spank when they're young. Take away privileges when older. If you don't have the stomach for spanking, find something that works (as Bells did).

 

FOR!!!
All this bullshit about time outs and crap obviously does not work. Just look at the kids of today. Spoiled rotten, and not afraid to do anything cause they know there is nothing the parents can do about it.
I think the Schools and the government need to get out of the homes and back to teaching and paveing the roads!

 

exactly! Grounding lasts longer and has more of an impact