Do you believe in Dinosaurs ?

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  1. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    nope.
     
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  3. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I am. I never said I believed in ID, I'm saying it's a logical speculation that is not ridiculous and shouldn't be discarded

    It's only the same thing in its suggestion that intelligence had a hand. That's it. Creationism goes beyond this, and makes further speculation that ISN'T based on any observation. ID is just a broader form of Creationism but that really matters
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    If you haven't discarded it how can you be an atheist ?
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Then what's the point of telling me it ?
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Because I don't "believe" in it. I'm agnostic, remember? It's just on the table, is my point.
     
  9. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    because it's the truth. this is a discussion forum.

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  10. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Ahh, but at some point, you mist have heard or read about it. And it was at that point that you MUST have decided to believe it or not. See? You did make that determination!

    Baron Max
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Discussion forums do not exist to spout unsupported beliefs.
    In order to discuss it you should provide some evidence so I can bring some counter arguments to the table, or perhaps I'll have to agree.
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, you seem anxious to argue in favor of it.

    Do you think it is truth or not ?
     
  13. jpappl Valued Senior Member

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    I like to play with my food.
     
  14. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know........that's the point of agnostic.

    We don't know how the universe was created, so we should keep every rational and logical possibility on the table. I'm not arguing in favor of it, I'm simply annoyed by atheists that don't understand the difference between higher intelligence and a guy in sheets.
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    So you are an agnostic, not an atheist ?

    And FYI, agnostics are atheists. You either believe in god or you don't.
     
  16. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    my beliefs are supported by my experience. i have shared that with you to a degree, and would share anything with you in testimony, but you would have to agree that you will not experience exactly what i do, or perceive it in the same way i do.

    we have argued about these experiences, but don't you see, i don't want to convince you. even if i did, i can not. this is something you have to experience for yourself, otherwise you can not truly believe it. there is nothing i can say that will convince you. but honestly, i am convinced.
     
  17. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    then i'll check back on you in five minutes.

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  18. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Agnostic atheist.
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, this is of course true. But then, how I ever supposed to become a believer ?
     
  20. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    that's between you and god. right now we're discussing this in another thread. there came a point at which i was willing to give up control, and regardless of the consequence, i sincerely wanted to know. i can tell you that...that's when things changed, and he slowly presented himself to me.
     
  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Being an agnostic atheist doesn't mean that you don't know whether or not you believe in god.
    Being agnostic just means that you acknowledge that you do not have definitive knowledge that a deity does not exist.
    Being an agnostic atheist means that you do not believe in god while acknowledging that you do not have definitive knowledge that a deity does not exist.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Giving up control over what ? And why did you decide to do that ?
     
  23. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Yes
     

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