If it were me then all of my faith is on the surgeon. So the answer is I do. Just because you assign them doesn't mean they're true. I think you need to rethink that one. I need to get back on topic. You can give me any purpose you want, it's irrelevant. My concern is with God assigning me some purpose in life. Am I as Shakespeare says, merely a player on the world's stage?
okay then glad we cleared that up Practically everyone works out of models of self aggrandizement - the only quibbles are whether it is direct (I am the greatest etc etc) or extended (My family/country/people is the greatest etc etc) You can pretend you don't have any purpose, it's irrelevant Because we are possessed of the same quality (but different quantity) of god, our purposes are identical - namely to seek happiness. The "world's a stage" thing only comes into it when we have political issues with the status quo of god, and thus require a world that can house the illusion of his non-existence in order to be happy.
Is that a bad thing? If, for instance, you have a parent that puts his children first and foremost, are we saying that's a negative? P.S This is a question, not a statement. Kindly treat it as such and provide a straightforward answer. Many thanks.
Oh boyPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!... I think you're saying that is the purpose God assigned to me, to be an atheist. God's purpose for me is to rail against His existence. I'm touched by this, I've never felt so closePlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!. My plane crashes so you can live...what ironyPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!. too tired to continue on tonight... later
not at all its simply the default position amongst even those who adamantly claim to be purposeless we're saying they have a purpose happy to oblige
You are assigned the purpose to be happy. The means you take to fulfill that propensity are more the issue of investigation however Getting down to the brass tacks of spiritual merit, it basically boils down to dealing with the consequences of our choices in the pursuit of happiness. g'night
I see. I wouldn't actually say it was a 'default' position - merely one of many. If they claim to be 'purposeless', it probably refers to some objective purpose as opposed to subjective purpose. Self defined, but ok. I agree with you. For all it's worth, they have a 'purpose' - one that they didn't have 9 months before the childs birth. Anything else?
why do you insist on determining the nature of god by using yourself as a (pun) yardstick? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
-=- As you refer to it as he, you are the 1 claiming to determine its nature. Why do you refer to it as he?
ad you are assuming that the sense of "he-ness" is fully within the realm of genitals (and your experience of them) :shrug:
It is pretty much a defining characteristic of the human word 'he', yes. You're using the non-human definition or what?
There is a huge effective difference between not knowing the particular details of a Transcendent God, and not knowing the details of Spirituality and True Religion. If it is impossible to know the Very Center Point, that does not exclude the Knowledge of the entire rest of the Circles -- The Spiritual Realms, the Angels, the Saints, Bliss, Ananda, blah blah blah. The problem with Atheists is that their focus on a too finely defined Transcendent God blinds them to the relatively very accessible Spiritual Realm.
Not so far. Oh THAT's their problem. Here I thought it was their lack of desire to let other people's fantasies rule their lives.
Absurd. I am blinded to nothing. A problem with theists is they obfuscate rather than present evidence. I & some others never said it's impossible to know. If you have evidence of a spiritual realm, present it.