Is breastfeeding obscene?

I don't know, I assumed why they hid it is because they don't want to see a naked breast, perhaps one that leaking milk even, no matter how well shirts and slings are designed to hid these things, do you disagree?

 

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So is nice long hair.

 

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Did you even bother reading the fallacy?

Removing stigma is not necessarily a claim that breastfeeding is "good" or "right" and breastfeeding is actually natural and there is no more reason to stigmatize it than other forms of children eating in public.

Now breastfeeding is definitely better for the mother (reduces incidence of breast cancer, for example) and the child (improves immune response, for example).

Does that make it "good" and "right?"

Do you even care about "good" or "right" or are you just taking a cheap shot?

 

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We didn't hide it, but we did like a bit of privacy to make it more of a family thing.

We don't hide changing either.

 

Breastfeeding, the Immune Response, and Long-term Health

Breastfeeding provides unsurpassed natural nutrition to the newborn and infant. Human breast milk also contains numerous protective factors against infectious disease and may influence immune system development, as noted in previous studies of infant response to vaccination and thymus gland development. If immune system development is significantly improved with the introduction of components of breast milk, then prematurely discontinued breastfeeding may facilitate pathogenesis of many chronic diseases later in life (eg, autoimmune disorders). The authors summarize the reported effects of breastfeeding on the development of the suckling infant's immune system and discuss possible consequences to immunologic health when breastfeeding is discontinued prematurely.

http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/106/4/203

That said, bear in mind this is a highly emotionally charge topic and even professional sources may be biased. Personally I feel that humans are pretty resilient, especially in early life and I would expect kids to bounce back like they do for most any early set back. That's just my opinion though.

Another interesting immune revelation is that "protecting" kids and adults from pathogens weakens their immune system and giving them vaccines strengthens their immune system. In other words, the more you use it short of catching a catastrophic disease, the stronger it gets.

 

peeing is also natural, and thus there is no reason to stigmatize it more then other events of excretions from sexual organs. I also like when I'm being quoted out of Wikipedia.

Peeing is also good for the person doing it, thus it is right?

 

Having been in settings where there was a lot of naked running about, it really isn't that titillating. Seeing nursing is even less titillating.

Maybe pervs are easier to titillate, but I've got a pretty strong sex drive. If it was the least sexy I would have expected a bit more feedback from the south pole.

No one has yet answered my question about whats wrong with obscene?

 

really?

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hair is adjustable, its is a social norm in some not all cultures for women to have long hair and men to not, its is not a secondary sexual characteristic.

 

So? As long as you clean up after yourself I don't care where you pee. In Germany you can pee where you like as long as your back is to the majority of people. I was using an ally one time and a fellow came up and joined me.

Florence has urinals installed on the side walks that date back to Roman times and are perfectly functional.

Get over your pee fixation already. Nobody cares.

 

You never read my argument did you, if we can have these things allowed why not breastfeeding and vis versa? A lot of people have problems with the vis versa. I'm not advocating against public breastfeeding, I'm simply trying to reason why some find it offensive, and then you have to claim I have a urine fetish, fuck you.

 

Yes really. Just because some societies suppress it, doesn't mean it isn't a totally useless, counterproductive, peacock feather of a secondary sexual characteristic.

In fact usually it is suppressed because it is a secondary sexual characteristic, hence the tradition in western nations that only young available women let their hair grow long and let it down, but married women and nuns must keep it up or cut it short.

You don't get out a lot do you?

Take a look at the women around you and see who has long loose hair and who doesn't.

 

Saying you have a "pee fixation" is acknowledging that is all you are talking about. It is not accusing you of any kind of fetish.

But its ok with me either way. If you want to explore pee start a thread and knock yourself out.

But if you already are for breast feeding, to go on and on and on about pee rights is at best obnoxious and off topic.

Peeing and defecation at the table in a restaurant leaves a big stinking bio hazard. It is not comparable and your average 3 year old can figure this out.

You need something at least remotely equivalent or people are going to wonder why you are fixating on that particular subject at every one else's expense.

 

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What's the discussion still about ?

 

No clue. I guess there are still some people here who think that breastfeeding incites lustful feelings in people.

Breastfeeding mums should use their breasts as weapons; "milk"pistols and shoot those perverted bastards. Joke.

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Holy motherf*cking Hell. Breastfeeding is a danger to society! It puts each and everyone at risk to turn into a lusty wolf who jacks off to babies drinking their mum's milk. Oh nooooes.

 

I've been talking about much more then pee, should I accuse you of being blind?

I've never argued for such a thing, strawman.

it is very much equivalent. I stated comparable qualities, if you don't noticed those qualities it is you not I that has a problem.

 

Haha.

I must say...I had to chuckle quite a bit at some posts in here. Especially at the arguments some brought up to support their theory that breastfeeding is, indeed, very obscene and absolutely comparable to peeing and shitting.
I thought that if I'd go after their arguments then breastfeeding your baby in a restaurant is just as obscene and dirty as shitting on the floor of that very restaurant. Because obviously, breastfeeding reeks just as bad, and puts everybody's health at risk.

Do this people have no decency? I must admit..before reading the posts in this very thread I've never thought of the possibility that breastfeeding could be considered as perverted, inciting lust, and compared to shitting and pissing. I've always considered breastfeeding as something "beautiful" because it somehow represents the bond between the baby and its mum. And certainly, I would have never thought that the bond between a baby and its mum is the same as guys peeing on walls and shitting in public places.

 

Or the present norm were women are forced to breast feed in some place private, though not necessarily a toilet.

no just the immediate vicinity of the urinal, but if you really want to get technical everywhere is already a toilet considering how other organism has been shiting all over the place.

I never said that, you continue to refuse to acknowledge general equivalents or the fundamental reason why some object to public breastfeeding: they don't want to see exposed breast just like they object to external urinals because they don't want to see exposed penises, and some people find extra offense to seeing fluids spurt from these organs, if you don't want to acknowledge that as the reasoning behind baning breastfeeding and want to throw strawman and red herrings at me well I can't stop you.

The primary function of feeding babies is the nipple, not the breast. You obviously have not been listening to my women have breast argument, why other apes don't have breast, etc, read a link perhaps?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Why-Do-Women-Have-Breasts-46783.shtml

Just one thing in common negates your whole argument, I have named several which you refuse to acknowledged.

I states specific things they have in common, "not many" not vague but very specific things, I've been to Europe and yes they don't have as much of a stigma against peeing and shitting in public nor such a stigma against the display of breasts, my reasoning explains why.

I'll accept this as your admission of defeat.

 

If they find it so obscene then why do they stare at the mum who's breastfeeding? Nobody is forcing them to look at her. Nobody. Plus, it's not very well-mannered to stare at others. To stress this out - staring at others - could be considered just as obscene.
Peeing and shitting in public places, i.e. out of facilities that were made for those very actions, hasn't been banned just because of its obscenity, but because of the health hazards that are brought with it. Know how sh*tty it was to live in the city in medieval times and later on? Because it was horribly unhygienic because everybody threw their sh*t and piss out of the window into the streets and of course tons of people had to die because of the consequences of that. Nobody died of breastfeeding though. Nobody.

Basically, your arguments are completely void.

PS: I can assure you that every doc out there will confirm that urine and faeces in general have nothing in common with breast milk. Nothing.