Skinwalker banning Scifes unacceptable

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by DiamondHearts, May 22, 2009.

  1. John99 Banned Banned

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    i already said i dont see any distinctions between religions in the religion forum. what more do you want me to say? i dont talk negatively about anyones beliefs but some people dont particularly care for religion so to them it is not really an issue. there are also plenty of negative things said about atheists here too.

    numerous members who were non muslim have been banned for 'preaching' and longer than scifes one day ban. i dont set the policy here, if it were my forum i would dump the religion forum altogether.

    anyone who comes here and preaches gets the same treatment, or worse. this is what i have seen, if you have not noticed that then i cant figure out why.

    its pretty obvious how you feel. even when foley comes around but i dont hold grudges against someone like him.
     
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  3. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    John I didn't mention anything about people preaching. If you read my posts in this thread you will see that I said preaching is unexceptable here and best reserved for private one on one for those who are interested in learning about a new religion. What I did address was Diamonds issue on how he was made to feel by a mod who used his religion as a poking point when giving him a warning.

    Again you fall wide of the point, try and galvanize the brain cells will ya. Just because you don't see any distinction in treatment doesn't mean it isn't happening. I never mentioned it until I saw it happening myself in more than one or two threads.
     
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  5. John99 Banned Banned

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    you said many things. there is NO distinction, just read the mods posts and you see that he doesnt favor ANY religions. you probably look for these and dont notice anything else.
     
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  7. John99 Banned Banned

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    and Draqon IS American.
     
  8. John99 Banned Banned

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    how old are you Lucy? if you dont mind me asking.
     
  9. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    So then he should know right?

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    John: you said many things. there is NO distinction, just read the mods posts and you see that he doesnt favor ANY religions. you probably look for these and dont notice anything else.

    Ok now go and take your lazy ass and find the post where I said that skinwalker or any mod favors any particular religon

    Learn to respond to what I am saying and not what you think I am saying.
     
  10. John99 Banned Banned

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    was that quote from a sociopath? never read the whack job.
     
  11. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Old enough to recognize a dolt when I come across one.
     
  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    Lucy, why are you constantly insulting me? i can report you for that.
     
  13. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Sure you can sweetpea
     
  14. John99 Banned Banned

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    yoo hoo....
     
  15. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Why would I answer any personal questions from someone like you? I mean especially you, you're a fly. And what how does it pertain to the thread in question dum dum? (and trust me when I say I'm not the only one who thinks so).
     
  16. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    muslims on this board do the same thing in regard to america.
    muslims have absolutely no right whatsoever to complain in this regard.
     
  17. leopold Valued Senior Member

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  18. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    :worship::bravo:

    Truer words have never been spoken on this site....ever.
     
  19. scott3x Banned Banned

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    Maybe he's keeping a low profile for now because of all the flack he's been getting here.


    I know the 'technique' perfectly well. Essentially, it goes like this:
    1- Don't dare suggest the moderator is wrong.
    2. The moderator is allowed to be hypocritical.

    Not very hard to understand. Perhaps you enjoy moderators like this, but I don't and would rather simply not contribute where they 'moderate'.
     
  20. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    i guess this is a reply to "Americans are stupid"...
    what about muslim americans..where do they fit??
     
  21. scott3x Banned Banned

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    I think I'll treat you to an excerpt from the speech of a prominent science fiction writer, Robert Heinlein, who passed away about 20 years ago. I think that the excerpt is absolutely golden, as it deals with 2 issues at once; anti semitism, which you'd probably agree is a problem, but by analogy, islamophobia as well. Here goes:
    ...a man who uses the scientific method cannot possibly be anti-Semitic. I have made that an illustration because it has caused a lot of trouble in the world lately. Why can't he be anti-Semitic? For a very simple reason: he doesn't have enough data, consequently he hasn't formed an opinion. Not matter how long he lives he can't hate all Jews, and unless he knows all Jews, he can't hate all Jews, because he doesn't form an opinion unless he has the data. It is possible for him to hate an individual Jew as it's possible for him to hate an individual Irishman or Rotarian or man or woman.

    But he can't possibly be anti-Semitic. He can't hate all capitalists, he can't hate all unions, he can't hate all women- you can't be a woman-hater, not if you use the scientific method. You can't possibliy; you don't know all women...

    By the same reasoning, it's very difficult for him to hate at all; and if you can just manage to keep hate out of your life (or a good portion of it- I can't keep it all out of my life myself. I've got to sit down and whip myself about the head and shoulder to get myself calmed down at times- but you can help yourself with this method)- if you can keep hate out of your life, you can keep from the difficulties and take care of yourself in a better fashion.​



    Does christianity have an 'agenda'? First of all, religions aren't people, they're belief systems, which makes it difficult for them to have agendas. Secondly, religions like christianity and islam aren't some unified entitites; they're schismatic, meaning that they are actually sub divided into various sects. Apparently you're a christian, so I'm sure you know that there is no one person who is in charge of all christianity. Perhaps you are unaware of this, but the same is true in islam.


    I haven't seen any problems with questioning islam. I've done it myself many times and there was a point where S.A.M. stated that she didn't want to talk to me anymore if I continued with it. Fortunately, we got over that, because I like S.A.M.

    The problem is that Skinwalker is deleting posts and banning people simply because he disagrees with them. This isn't what a moderator is supposed to do I would think; from where I stand, a moderator is only supposed to ensure that there is civil discussion; he or she may contribute, as they do, but when they use their moderator power as a type of 'might as right' tool, we've got a problem.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2009
  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i don't call "deleting and editing posts" maintaining a low profile.
    the "low profile" ruse doesn't wash.
    you're a laugh scott.
    you think for one minute if i thought a mod was wrong i wouldn't say anything?????? think again dude.
    the major difference between me and you in this regard is that i take a measure of responsibility with my words. i believe i mentioned this before when i said "technique"
    a mod says one thing but believes something else?
    evidence?
     
  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    you conveniently left out the word political.
    tell that to your daughter when she is being legally forced to cover her face because she married a muslim.
    or she's being beat on because some religion allows it.
    bullshit scott

    you might be comfortable with that, but i take great offense to it.
    it's unconstitutional, but we can't use the constitution against religion can we?

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    the above post was directed specifically to muslims and islam but it applies to all religions. you have about as much use in our courtrooms as battery acid does in baby food. keep your garbage out of our courtrooms.

    (patiently awaits the subtleties.)
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2009

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