why does god has to have a god??

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  1. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    simple, clear thoughts..just how i like them..

    but what makes going from complex to more complex easier than the opposite?
     
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  3. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    well they don't tell...

    they just tell you he's god and that you should worship him..

    mention nothing about who created god..

    but i think it's said somewhere that a believer shouldn't dwell in these thoughts..
     
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  5. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    aww..that's not nice..we're all humans.. and if god exists..then even you think he'se an advanced alien..
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Why does life need a creator ?
     
  8. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    i don't know..does it??

    is there [insert something] that needs a creator?
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    So you don't believe in god then ?
     
  10. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    You claimed going from complex to more complex in saying something as complex as life must be created by something more complex.
     
  11. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    it doesn't matter what i believe..
    i just want to discuss this..
    so, is there [insert something] that has to have a creator?


    no i meant evolution..

    is it more probable for something to start complex and gains more complexity over time..

    or is the opposite??

    i'm just asking btw..
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, television sets, cars, computers, etc.
    But this is irrelevant.

    You claimed that God doesn't need a creator.
    Your argument was: "because it's god."
    Then I said: "Life doesn't need a creator because it's life" (equally absurd), and you said "it does".

    Now I am asking "why ?"
    Please answer the question.
     
  13. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    to round up the "etc"
    we'll rephrase to:
    everything with [insert condition] needs a creator..(e.g TVs, PCs, cars..)

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    i'm sorry.. i take back everything i said before..
    :idea:
    meaning i gave up defending my answer..i'm just looking for a new one..
    because life is directly connected to us..it is relevant..
    god is connected to us by being god, no strings attached..it really shouldn't intrest us if he has a creator or not
     
  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Why does it interest you whether we have a creator?
     
  15. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    curiosity..?.. doesn't it intrigue you??..where we're heading?..and why??

    what is life in the long run?? what is it when you zoom out??
     
  16. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    But that all depends not on God but on SuperGod. It's not your God who's in control but the SuperGod who created God.
     
  17. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    mmm.....

    i have to agree that's true..

    but who's super god then?

    i mean, what is the difference between god and supergod to us? we only hear of god in religions..
     
  18. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    -=-

    OOPS!
    I made a careless error. I apologize.
    It's not SuperGod who's in control, of course, because it was created by MegaGod.
     
  19. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    WHO's SuperGod!?! The creator of all the other gods, of course.
    What's the difference between humans & gods to ants?
    We who???
     
  20. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    i know that super god is who created all the other gods..i'm just asking if there's any refrence to him from us humans..i.e what do we know(or some people pretend to know) about him..

    religions say they "know" god and everything..is there something similar to super god?

    humans kill ants sometimes or burn them..
    ants eat some of human's food..
    sometimes ants bite humans..
    while ants don't do that with god..

    i feel silly answering that..but i was afraid if i said it was irrelative you'd get angry..

    and of course by us i mean humans..
     
  21. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    How much have you read about SuperGod?

    Ants kill ants. Ants kill wasps. Ants kill cattle. Ants kill humans.
    Ants would try to bite UltraGod if they could.

    I don't get angry.
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That is your supposition, not mine. Religious people seem to think that it makes more common sense for a complex entity (God) to create the world than for it to come about through an evolutionary process. They do not recognize the explanatory power of evolution. Their every day experience is when humans make something complex, like a clock. Clocks don't seem to arise through other simple iterative processes, so they apply this reasoning to the world, even though that application is mistaken.
     
  23. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Why are so many of your posts otherwise then???
     

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