All Powerful and All Knowing

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Michael, May 22, 2009.

  1. wise acre Registered Senior Member

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    This is also problematic deduction. The assumption is that the two relationships would be the same because we are dealing with, in each case, entities that are a number of orders of magnitude different in size.

    It might be good deduction. In a sense coincidentally.
    It might not.

    Could be the makings of a humbling form of pantheism.
     
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  3. ili Registered Member

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    "God" can be realized by Mankind if...

    1. We have the ultimate use of physical power (fire>bows & arrows>guns>bombs>nuclear weapons>the god particle)

    2. We have the repository of all knowledge (internet, libraries, universities)

    3. We are all-loving by living and let live (free speech, freedom, separation of church and state)
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Is arrogance a 'god-trait' as well ?
     
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  7. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    “ Originally Posted by StrangerInAStrangeLa
    Bullshit.
    He proposed something for discussion. If you don't care to participate, don't.
    If you do care to participate, try to do so without such assinine assumptions. ”



    Turnabout doesn't always work.
    You proposed nothing other than unsupportable assumptions about his motives. I assumed nothing.

    Those who can't support their position attack assumed motives to derail discussion.
     
  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    You're claiming something came from nothing?
     
  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    All parts are assine assumptions. Neither of you know his motives.
    Seems unfair.



    Obviously, Signal wanted to disrupt not participate.
     
  10. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I wanted to prevent the thread from going in the same way that so many others did.

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  11. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    You are watching too many movies and thinking they are real.
     
  12. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    well i guess if god existed then he's the only one who should hold that trait..he is the most complete thing there is, right?
     
  13. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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  14. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    why not? it makes sense..
     
  15. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Arrogance is a symptom of incompleteness.
    If gods were complete, they wouldn't need worship.
     
  16. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    yeah but if you are complete..arrogance fits you.. it's like you ave the right to be arrogant..unlike someone who isn't complete and is arrogant..

    and it's true that scince gods are complete, they are in no need of any worshipping....
     
  17. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    There is no right to be arrogant. Arrogance is self-defeating. Arrogance comes from insecurity.
     
  18. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't make sense for something all-powerful to have any opposing qualities since this produces impossible scenarios.

    E.g. If we claim a god shows modesty then he can't be arrogant.

    We can go on to make a long list that shows opposing conditions that cannot coexist.

    The problem with assigning super-superlatives to something in an attempt to show perfection is that the action produces contradictory nonsense instead.
     
  19. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    That's 1 of the huge problems, the square triangle, with the god of the KJV & many others.
     
  20. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Absolute control is only pertinent to conditioned life ... kind of like how the heavy control that is pertinent to maximum security prisons is not pertinent to the outside world.

    It all depends on the environment you are relegated to.
     
  21. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Then, of course, absolute control is not pertinent to unconditioned life.
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Actually thinking is all about modeling the world according to one's desires. values, goals, etc

    Given that conditioned life is all about problems in progress (or too put it another way, our conditioned models of the universe should be and our role to play in it are not at all persistent or constant), its clear god has plenty to think about.

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  23. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    That's not clear at all.
     

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