The New What's On Your Cd/Turntable Thread.

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by invert_nexus, Oct 26, 2007.

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  1. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Maybe if you opened yourself up more freely to today's music you'd find some harmony with the world that its metaphors represent. I can assure you that learning to appreciate what the next generation likes (or in my case the next three generations since by your model I'm supposed to be--and am--a Dwayne Eddy fan) does not diminish your love for the culture of your youth.

    I'm not asking you to join me at a Killers concert or borrow my Chantal Kreviazuk CDs, but have you even heard Dream Theater or Alana Davis (more than one cut of each)? I can't imagine that anyone who liked Pink Floyd or Carole King, respectively, would not like them too.
     
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    Amy Winehouse - "Valerie"
     
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    Again it isn't that I really hate the music of today, I just enjoy the music I listened to in the 50's and 60's and even into the 70's much, much more. I do enjoy a few of todays "rockers" but very few to be honest. They just aren't the same to me even though they try their best, it just doesn't do it for me.

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    Yeah, Fraggle, as a music fan, I've got to say I could say the same of you: What about Drew Danbury and Guster and the Decemberists and Feist and all those indie kids? Why just listen to mainstream stuff? It doesn't diminish your love of Duane Eddy to enjoy a little "Mojo Pin." It won't kill you to go outside mainstream!

    See how annoying that is? I mean, I found it was easier rather than coyly implying my mom had limited tastes in music and art, I could find things I knew she liked and share them with her. She likes some Greenday now. She'll read an Aline Crumb comic. No one likes things shoved up their ass. A link with some gentle encouragement is usually appreciated much more. I know from personal experience of being a jackass.

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  9. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    I haven't heard all the indie kids because there are so many of them, but I go to clubs where new bands play that haven't even been signed yet. Airport was particularly nice. I was even in one last year, which unfortunately I can't name because it would blow my anonymity, although I don't think any of our thirty-seven loyal fans are here.

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    Most of the bands I've played in did original music.
    I don't "just listen to mainstream stuff," but I name those bands because more people are likely to recognize Korn and have some vague idea what I'm talking about than if I mention Bird York. I've been trying to get absolutely anyone to pay attention to Alana Davis for twelve years with no success.
    I don't think Rhea's Obsession, the Mars Volta, the Battles, Sass Jordan, Drain STH, Flyleaf, Charlotte Church, Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks or Powerman 5000 are exactly "mainstream"! I don't actually have any Dwayne Eddy albums but I still listen to Quicksilver and Mott the Hoople. I think the oldest album I still have is "Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs" by Marty Robbins--the "El Paso" album.
    I love Green Day and I wish the "classic rock" crowd would realize that "American Idiot" is a good old-fashioned concept album. As is "Scenes from a Memory" by Dream Theater.
    Yeah, I'm sorry. It's just that as a bass guitarist who works with contemporary songwriters it dismays me that so many people who really love music will never hear ours because they can't pry themselves out of the past.

    I can sort of understand my parents not being able to enjoy rock and roll because they grew up with Tin Pan Alley and even swing was a stretch for them. Everything about rock and roll, from the relentless and counterintuitive backbeat to the undisciplined instrumentation to the screamed vocals to the rebellious lyrics was deliberately calculated to offend older people. But except for the really extreme forms of rock, like rap and punk, I just can't understand what it is about recent music that turns off the classic rock crowd. It's all rock and roll and half of today's hits wouldn't raise an eyebrow if they could be time-warped back to a DJ 25 years ago.

    Not to mention, the whole hippie era was about being open to new and unfamiliar music. We learned to tap our feet in 11/4 time to Rush, sort out the polyrhythms of King Crimson, laugh at the ham-fisted theatrics of the Tubes, figure out Yes's chord resolutions, and maintain an attention span long enough to follow the thematic dynamics of Genesis. What the heck is so off-putting about Sheryl Crow's straight-out-of-1968 political statements, Pink's in-your-face social commentary, the Killers' bigger-than-life Las Vegas show, the Mars Volta's "difficult listening" tracks, Lacuna Coil's bombastics or Marilyn Manson's David Bowie on a bad acid trip?
     
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    I listen to different styles of music being played today. Whenever someone posts a song here I listen to it. But that doesn't mean that I like it however.

    As I am from that era I still am openminded and give many forms of music a go, but I still like that good ol' rock and roll. I like some of Pinks stuff as well as Greenday and Marooned 5 or whatever they are called. As for Rap, well that never ever made me a happy hippie as it was rather violent and full of cussing which to me degrades music not uplifs it.
     
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    I have the entire self-titled The Fray album on repeat for the last two days. It's so acoustically beautiful, and the words so moving... Honestly the best album they've put out so far and better than anything else I've heard lately.

    Today's favourite;

    Never Say Never

    There's some things we don't talk about
    Rather do without
    And just hold the smile
    Falling in and out of love
    Ashamed and proud of
    Together all the while

    You can never say never
    Or why we don't know when
    Time and time again
    Younger now than we were before
     
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    Because that music for the most part, to an aging hippie, all those singers are pretentious at best. Kids these days can't have the same kind of raw power they felt in their youth, it won't be the same for them. And that feeling was a high that they never want to forget. It's understandable really. Each generation has it's movement and it's idols... and it becomes an ideology they don't want to tarnish much.

    For musicians, it's different. We are idealistic in thinking that we can transcend those boundaries, and really should just worry ourselves about the current audience because the old one is still stuck in a Bob Dylan concert in '78. There is nothing wrong with that for them, but it does limit their exposure to potentially great artists like Ben Sollee, Yeasayer, Lucinda Blackbear, Carbon Leaf, Rotary Downs, Trapper's Cabin, Scott Murray, Esther Haynes... I could go on and on. Most people will have never heard of any of those names but the music is fantastic. I play guitar, mandolin and I can sing but I don't hear music the way everyone else does. My iPod is "eclectic" to most people when I really am just a lover of music in almost any form. There is music that is really bad music. There is a lot of music that is no good and forced down our throats by the great machine, but even those songs are harmonious in some way so that the gen pop will accept it as good.

    Most people don't listen to music with their ears as much as musicians do, and for them the music captures a feeling or an emotion they want to replay at a later point. They don't enjoy all music like we do. It's not the same for most people, sadly. I often say to friends... I wish you could have my ears for an hour. People listen in their own way.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qxG9MC4nk

    heavy music with haunting lyrics:

    Whoa yeah. Yeah!

    Once a day falling on the trail walking blind
    trade nothing descretion in low,
    It's hard to wait taking yourself in honor
    I should know how low I can go

    Before I go high I get very down,
    and I'll be going after it again and again

    You know I can't go the other way
    without being trashed, lost and strungout,
    When together try something going back to the question
    what's to coming out?

    Before I go high I get very down,
    and I'll be going after it again and again

    Maybe I should've (could've) trashed my life
    but for that I'm gonna turn to you.
    And the trashed people askin' my head until I sweat
    Now tell me what the fuck to do!

    One day I getting to the point where I ain't gonna do,
    Nothing but trying to beat strungout on you
    You let me drown way deep down below
    For the fleeting past to let go
    Until the end I raise and batter around
    looking at my own reflection
    forever I shall kiss you goodbye
    to kill my soul addiction

    Before I go high I hit the ground,
    Then you know me for i get very down
    Up to the next you tell me "fucking whore"
    And i'll be going after it, before I go!

    One day I gettin to the point where I aint gonna do,
    Nothing but try to be strungout on you
    You let me drown way deep down below
    For the fleeting past to let go
    Until the end I raise and batter around
    Lookin' at my own reflection
    Forever i shall kiss you goodbye
    To kill my soul addiction
     
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