Wild Animal Charging You

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Orleander, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    The posters have listed various animals which they fear to be chased by. It would be interesting to see why exactly the posters have listed them - what it is about being charged by those paritcular animals that brings up the most fear in them. And especially the state of mind they see themselves in while being chased by a particular animal.
     
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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    for me its the teeth, the hands (not really paws, but hands), the rage, and the intellect.

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  5. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    So what is really scary about an animal charging you is that it is a being with an intellect, that you suspect it is capable of and has malicious intent for charging you?

    Say, if you fell down a rocky slope with thorny bushes and sustained in roundabout similar injuries as if an animal attacked you, you wouldn't feel so bad about those injuries?
     
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  7. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    falling down vs and animal attack?? :shrug: I don't understand what you are talking about.
     
  8. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    If you sustain an injury from falling down a rocky hillside, do you feel different about that inury in comparison if you sustained a similar injury from an animal attack? (Ie. your skin can be torn by rocks, or animal claws and teeth.)
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I would feel differently about that..
    A slope doesn't actively seek you out to attack you. On top of that, falling off a slope is probably your own fault for not looking were you go.
    A better analogy would be someone pushing you over in the street either on purpose or by accident.
    I know I would feel a whole lot better about someone pushing me over by accident compared to someone seeking me out and pushing me over on purpose.
     
  10. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

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    sustaining the same injuries in a different fashion eliminates a lot of the fear element. to me, fear is just as real as physical pain. i remember reading a study that said being ostracised by your peers activates the same part of the brain that deals with physical pain.
     
  11. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    But this is too suggestive for the topic of this thread. It's not established yet whether animals are capable of intent (and most of all, of malicious intent). Perhaps this is what so scary about animal attacks: Not being able to figure out whether it was done with malicious intent or not.
     
  12. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    because geese are the devil incarnate.
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Huh.. What evidence do you have to the contrary ?
    Can you please define intent ?
     
  14. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    animals are capable of intent. Ever see a group of killer whales knock a seal off the ice. Lots of intent there
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDZW4k8tCY
     
  15. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Then why are we for the most part treating them as if they were automatons?

    The way they kill cows, pigs, horses, chicken and other animals in slaughterhouses, kitchens, fur farms, laboratories and elsewhere on a daily basis, it certainly does not look like they acknowledge animals are anything but automatons.


    Along the lines of

     
  16. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I don't doubt animals can intend.
    See my post above to Enmos.



    My inquiry earlier was
    And you then seemed to reason in the direction that it is the intent behind an animal attack that makes the attack and the experience of it so scary.
     
  17. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Eh ? How is how we treat them evidence that they can't show intent ?
    People treat them like that because they are either ignorant or assholes.
    Some men treat their wives as if they were filth, does that mean they really are ?
    I'm sorry, but you'll have to come up with something better than that.
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Ferocious attacking giant caterpillars!

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  19. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    *tsk tsk*

    In the empirical method, human interest overrides all other interests.

    Deny that if you can.


    Dare you say that to the butchers, cooks, laboratory workers?
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Damn sure I deny that ! :bugeye:

    And I dare say it as well..

    Human interest.. pfft.. you are one of those then ?
     
  21. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Then you are anti-science.


    Do you eat meat and eggs ...


    Not at all.
     
  22. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    The fear of the animal causing me pain. What else is there to be afraid of?
     
  23. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, how we treat them says something about us, not about the animals.
    You are being nonsensical now.

    Relevance ? We are talking about people treating animals as if they were automatons.

    So you don't put human interest above all else ?
     

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