Purity Myth

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Orleander, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

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    agreed.
     
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  3. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Pretty sad, given our intellectual potential, as it took us 100,000 years to get where we are now.
    Seems that w/o all the wars/fighting/greed/power strugges/tyranny, I feel we would be close to mass space travel right now.
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    But the power struggle is why we got into space in the first place.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I have to agree with Orleander here.
    Humans actually seem to need wars/fighting/greed/power strugges/tyranny to get more 'advanced'.

    Humanity.. Bah !
     
  8. Liebling Doesn't Need to be Spoonfed. Valued Senior Member

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    Lucy darling,

    I do agree with everything you said. I've lived in Europe, and I miss it very much in that it's a much more liberal place for women. But I don't think that the traditional values and taboo's are good for people's mental health. Because they are indoctrinated at a young age to not be free and to live by the ideals their parents set for them, they cannot explore their lives freely. They are not free to love, they are not free to dream. Women in those countries are bound to the fairy tales they are spoon fed. They are not equal because they cannot dance without knowing that every eye is upon them. I find that sad, but only because I'm a dancer at heart. I know that ignorance is bliss for some people, and that's fine for them but it's just wasted potential. I have trouble imagining a world that was not as colourful or rich with possibilities as the one I live in now.
     
  9. Liebling Doesn't Need to be Spoonfed. Valued Senior Member

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    I disagree. The reason we got into space is because man has the capacity to dream and to put those dreams into action.

    The reason we went when we did, was a matter of power and a show of ego. But why we went was not driven by anything but the power of imagination.
     
  10. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    LMFAO, uh-huh
    The military is well known for their imagination and fuzzy bunny dreams.
     
  11. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    I have to disagree with you both.
    Power struggles have hurt us just as much, if not more than helped us.
    You mean to tell me that the billions of dollars we spent on Iraq couldn't have been used for space research?
    That's not the only example and the U.S. isn't the only guilty country.
     
  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    what is there to research in space? we need to take care of issues here on earth.
     
  13. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

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    hippies did not put us in space. feel good moments only make hallmark rich, and space craft costs dolla
     
  14. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    ANYWAYS, none of this has anything to do with the Purity Myth.
     
  15. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    Not much of any thread has to do with the OP of the thread after nine pages. :bugeye:
     
  16. Liebling Doesn't Need to be Spoonfed. Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. That's why scientists get into their fields, because of the raw power it gives them.

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    Without the scientists and engineers dreams (not hippie dreams) we would have never gotten into space at all. It's not like the military drives people to be inspired... People's imagination drives us to explore our universe, we just went when we did because of the military. We would have gotten there either way at some point, when we explored and understood enough of our own world to find everything else interesting.

    Galileo dreamed of stars...
     
  17. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    so start a new thread Mike. Its not difficult. :shrug: (or is it??)
     
  18. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Galileo wasn't in the military. We got on the moon due to power struggles. The men who flew were military trained.
    And a LOT of people are inspired by power
     
  19. sniffy Banned Banned

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    I think you are probably very wrong on that score

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  20. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Well people are naturally informed by the culture and society they are born in just as we are. I think its unfair to say they are unfair to dream and love, I didn't notice a lack of dreams or love in Asian women anymore than I do in American women. What you assume about women in Africa and Asia is western bias, what you think they need is also a western bias. Ones ultimate freedom doesn't necessarily lie in how many partners we are able to shag and I think you already know that. The women I have met are not interested in exported american values, they are interested in civil liberties yes, education, poverty reduction but within the framework of their cultural values. I cannot say that I felt these women to be mentally unsound and we cannot judge them by our standards in this way. I just found them conservative when it comes to certain behaviours.
     
  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think so. In what major way are we still evolving then ?
     
  22. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

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    you still make it sound like scientists/engineers were frolicking and laughing in fields of wildflowers before they made the rockets out of gingerbread with gumdrop buttons. some people would have been excited about it, others were just crunching numbers and doing their job. stop making it sound lame. galileo studied stars.
     
  23. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

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    u might be right, i'm not sure. this website http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...ans-was-a-long-and-winding-one_100128474.html says modern humans appeared around 200,000 years ago, but its not really providing information about intelligence.

    i got the old biology textbook out, and it says humans appeared more than 2 million years ago, but modern humans appeared 30,000 to 40,000 years ago. its not very specific as its only covering emergence of mankind with a few pages, but imo you can assume victory til proven otherwise.

    relevant to my earlier argument, the textbook also says "for the past 40,000 years, cultural evolution has been outpacing biological evolution of the human species: humans spread rapidly through the world by devising cultural means to deal with a diverse range of environments."
     

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