what the fuck is wrong with young men?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by visceral_instinct, Apr 27, 2009.

  1. draqon Banned Banned

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    well than why is she coming back there than? :bugeye:
    Why not just meet a guy in a cafe, random chat, flirt and you got a date? There are better nighclubs I am sure, much safer...if she wants to dance to get the spirit out.

    If she wants to be safe, she should change herself and her attitude, and not expect someone else to bend under her.

    Again are those men wrong? Yes. Are they going to change? No. What should she do? Change herself.
     
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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You would have done so well in Nazi Europe.. eh, until after the war of course. You can't fool everyone all the time

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  5. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    For the music, to meet friends.

    You really don't get out much at all do you?

    You're sure are you?
    Based on... what?
    Your total lack of knowledge of nightclubs in general and the UK scene in particular.

    She should change?
    Because men want to paw at her?
    Oh don't worry about unwanted attention and being touched, just learn to like it...

    What an excellent idea.
    If only we'd said that about serial killers, Hitler etc...
    You're in the wrong, but don't worry we'll change our attitudes to suit you.

    I don't whether to laugh at you 'til I throw up or just throw up.
    You're starting to disgust me altogether.
     
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  7. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    I don't expect people to bend themselves to suit me. I expect antisocial drunken louts to quit being antisocial drunken louts.
     
  8. ogdred Registered Senior Member

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    Alright visceral instinct, if your goal is to change the behavior of men at nightclubs, then yes I suppose you're acting reasonably. Hopefully you have an army with you.

    Oli, I avoid situations in which I think that I will be sexually harassed. Certainly it's a raw deal--in an ideal society I could go anywhere I want wearing anything I want and feel safe. Let me know when and where this utopia is achieved and I'll be there. In the meantime, since I dislike being harassed, I will continue to avoid situations in which that is a likely outcome. Once again, I'm not debating that sexually aggressive men are jerks, I'm just questioning the logic of a woman who doesn't like jerks frequenting their stomping grounds.
     
  9. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Shouldn't it be everyone's goal?
    Simply to let them know their behaviour is unacceptable?

    So she's not allowed her own stomping grounds?
    She should avoid what she likes doing simply because a bunch of idiots happen to go there?
    Where does that process stop?
    With every pub/ nightclub being avoided by people who know how to behave and simply leave them to the groups of morons?
     
  10. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, don't worry about my logic. I have no problem with logic. I understand that they're probably not going to change their behaviour. I choose to go there and just stand up to them, because it's my world too. I have only one life. Why should I spend it not doing things I like in case I get harassed?
     
  11. draqon Banned Banned

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    how am I a Nazi? :bugeye:
     
  12. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    You're not: you just have (apparently) very poor comprehension skills.
     
  13. draqon Banned Banned

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    In a picture thread I posted a picture of myself. Now you know why I dont get out much, in addition to that having issues of being a Russian guy.
     
  14. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    You missed a bit: that should be "self-involved self pitying Russian guy who brings that up at every opportunity and thereby (possibly deliberately) alienates himself further".
    At least half of your problems are self-inflicted.
     
  15. draqon Banned Banned

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    well I guess I do...I just want war.
     
  16. scott3x Banned Banned

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    Do you really?
     
  17. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    You seem quite unstable. And a bit creepy What is with you? :bugeye:
     
  18. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

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    that won't stop much stuff happening, if you're unlucky. some dudes are there for the grope and the fight. some dude bear hugged my gf at a nightclub and it took 3 guys to pull him off.

    i agree with oli's earlier statement that nightclubs need to be redefined as something other than a meat market, i think for a lot of people its a case of having nowhere else to go.
     
  19. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus...

    I know how you mean though. I was on the way back from the toilets, avoiding the pile of vomit (yes, someone actually vomited on the stairs...Yay for normal people. Not.), and this guy just randomly hugs me. I pushed him and almost knocked him down the stairs...
     
  20. copernicus66 Banned Banned

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    There's no need to place yourself in that environment.
     
  21. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Have you read ANY of the points made by Tiassa, myself, and countless other posters??

    Why should I not? I have the same right to be there as anyone else. The answer is to stand up to these people, to show them their behaviour is not ok. The answer is NOT to accept it and capitulate.
     
  22. takandjive Killer Queen Registered Senior Member

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    Good God. Maybe she shouldn't bathe, because after all, being clean is just tempting rapists. If she smelled like a dead horse, she wouldn't be tempting all those men. So really, VI, this is all your fault for showering.

    Is it any more senseless than some of the other posts here?
     
  23. copernicus66 Banned Banned

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    Read a post by Tiassa? What am I, a masochist?

    Personally, I don't enjoy getting mugged and sodomized, so I don't walk down a dark alley at 2am. I don't enjoy getting my stuff stolen, so I lock the door to my room. In an ideal world nobody would be mugging, sodomizing or stealing from me, but this ain't an ideal world, and I need to adjust my behaviour patterns to take that into account!

    If you don't like what you experience in an environment, don't put yourself in it. You're a big girl, take charge of your life.
     

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