Afghanistan - What is the objective?

Where is G-d`s name do you dredge this crap up from?

 

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Hardly my friend. There is a serious culture of tunnel vision in this forum, and if only you can step out for a minute, you will find that DH in particular, presents lucid, rational and factual posts with a LARGE dose of actual first hand experience as a foundation.

 

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Just what the Hell are you smoking?

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HAHAHAHAHAH!

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Then perhaps with the same licid, rational and factual posting, DH can explain to us all why a Muslim suicide bomber blew himself up in a mosque in Pakistan killing some 50 Muslim worshippers?

Yes, there is a serious culture of tunnel vision in this forum ...most of us are horrified by such displays by Muslims ...even while you're here telling us all that Islam is a religion of peace and goodwill.

Baron Max

 

anyway what arebthe objectives in afghanistan???

has obama re-invented them

oh yes we are going to re-win the war we have already won

 

so than why are their 3 major sides not 2

 

Still trying to educate me. If you really want to do that first you need to learn what your talking about.

No it doesn't It just shows that the 2 of you have something in common anti-muslim bigotry.

Your delusions aren't reality.

It was just as religious as Iraq.

 

Yes, I am trying the Herculean tasks of clean the Augean Stable of your mind, a hopeless task.

Your reply just shows how little of this you really comprehend.

 

I have already. Look in the thread specifically addressed to this topic.

The same India which supported the Soviet and American invasions of Afghanistan, killing hundreds of thousands of Afghani civilian. The same India which occupies Kashmiri Muslim land, the ethnic cousins of Pakistanis and Afghanis? Why do you think some Afghanis would have issue with India?

Explain you only posting against Pakistan and Islam, and constantly furthering Indian propaganda. India has no place in Afghanistan, Afghanistan is a Muslim land, as long as it occupies Kashmir, it deserves no respect in Muslim eyes.

Afghanistan has long sought India? Remind me again who support the Russian invasion against Afghanistan, INDIA. India was the main proponent of the invasion, as it would eliminate its rival Pakistan. Afghanis and Pakistanis are the same people, same religion, and same ethnicity. India has consistently wanted to divide Muslims against each other. True successor to the British colonialists.

Furthermore, all India's neighbors have issues with its expansionist and interfering nature: Bangladesh with India's rerouting rivers to change borders, Sri Lanka with Indian support of Tamil Tiger terrorists, Pakistan with invasion of its Kashmir territory, and China with India's subversive tactics against Southern China.

US and Indian intelligence you mean. Afghani puppet government has no sovereignty in Afghanistan. Pukhtoons, the majority ethnic group of Afghanistan, are Pro-Pakistani by nature. Remember, it was Pakistan which helped Afghanistan fight off Soviet troops, while India gave tacit support to the Soviet. Every Afghani knows this, none of them forget this. Furthermore, it was Pakistan which attempted to settle the diplomatic issues with the Afghani government and US government prior to the outbreak of war, Afghanis never forget this. It is Pakistan which provides food, water, medicine, and technology, and houses more than 10 million Afghan refugees in its territory. No other nation has helped Afghanistan more than Pakistan, naturally Indians dispute this, but Afghanis never forget who is there friend for 60 years, and who is using the foothold of foreign occupying armies to interfere, and to divide and destroy fellow Muslim nations.

Ok, either you are completely lying or you have some Indian propaganda and personal vendetta against Pakistan. I have been noting your posts this whole week, they have all been negative against Pakistan, even in topics unrelated to Pakistan. Explain yourself.

If I remake myself in your image. No chance. My views come from my experience, something which I doubt you can understand. You have never lived in Afghanistan or Pakistan. Ground reality is quite different for those actually who have experienced what this invasion has done.

Somehow understanding the ethnic and tribal composition of Afghanistan and Pakistan inhibits our reason. These are ground realities, something no amount of wishing away can solve. The ethnic composition of region has been in this region when our first ancestors came from Central Asia nearly 6,000 years ago and settled in this region, before The Prophet Muhammad (peace be to him) was born, before Hinduism, Buddhism, and the arrival of the Europeans in our land, and will remain after the European leave. It's the ground reality, something which cannot be neglected. These bonds don't die, not in a hundred years, not in a thousand years.

 

still pissing in the wind I see.

 

As I said;

I guess you could call that pissing in the wind, as it accomplished nothing in the furtherance of instructing you in the art of rational thought, but then I am not Hercules, and the stable of your mind is too full to ever clean out.

 

Thank you. The perfect response to an accusation of tunnel vision.

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If you would care to read and COMPREHEND the posts from DH you would understand the background and the conditions that are creating this activity. INCLUDING dark ops perpetrated by the US and others that is causing purposely engineerd division. Your "tunnel vision" is what retards your COMPREHENSION skills.

Most of us are HORRIFIED by the ILLEGAL invasion of Iraq, that has caused over one million deaths. Most of us are HORRIFIED at the slaughter and civilian casualties committed by the US war machine (and its well paid puppet militia) in Afghanistan. Are you NOT horrified?

 

It's hard to sort out the real stuff from the rest, though. He truly believes a great deal of nonsense, and the lucidity of his posts highlights a view of geopolitical events as a struggle of Islam vs evil (and occasionally Pakistan vs evil) that is no more sensible from the Islam side than it is from the other.

Latest illustration:

 

Far more Afghani civilians are killed by Afghani Muslims, mostly in Muslim terrorist acts, than by all the US/NATO troops combined. Why are you not horrified about that?

Afghani Muslims, presumably the Taliban, throw acid in the faces of young Afghani school girls. Are you not horrified about that? The Muslim Taliban are fighting the US invasion and occupation by ....throwing acid on little Afghani school girls??

See how easy it is for you to focus on only one side of the issue ...while completely ignoring what's actually happening in Afghanistan?

But what difference does it make? The US is sending in more troops and equipment, and perhaps soon we'll actually start fighting a real war instead o the silly little war-games that we've been playing over there.

Baron Max

 

Yeah your pissing in the wind some thing that is stupid, useless, and irrational. The idea of you trying to teach anyone rational thought. Its for all intents a purposes an oxymoron. You need to be capable of something to teach it. Every time you try and show your supposed knowledge and intellect you show your ignorance, unintelligence, and your complete desire to put your ideology and beliefs before facts.

 

US soldiers raped young girls while fighting... Saddam! So thats how they fight Saddam: by raping young girls and then killing their entire families to cover it up. Fact of the matter is that crime happens everywhere. How many people got attacked and killed today in Christian USA? How is that any different than to any crime committed in a Muslim country? And a warzone no less! Also, provide proof that the Quran demans Muslims to attack and kill innocent Muslims. If you cannot, then stop calling the people who throw acid in the face of girls or bomb mosques Muslim. I should probably link you to a post in anotehr thread

 

So you just denounce your fellow Muslims whenever they do anything wrong? ..just like that? ...just so you can come to forums like this one and make the claim that "People who did that aren't Muslims!"? ...LOL!

But I'll bet you wouldn't allow me to make the same statements about US soldiers who do wrong, would you? Any US soldiers who engage in such criminal behavior .....are not US soldiers, they're criminals!

Ahh, but if we do that, then you won't be able to blame all of the US soldiers, right? It would ruin your whole argument, wouldn't it? ...LOL!

Baron Max

 

Ive always denounced people that do wrong. The reason I have lately continued to talk about US soldiers hat way is ebcause of people like you and your constant insistence that Muslims do all the wrong things, kill all people etc etc for Islam. If you and your ilk would stop those BS posts, there wouldnt be posts like those from me. But thats too juch to ask from you sint it? After all, you havent been able to grasp this, even now you dont understand