Afghanistan - What is the objective?

So then they are looking for him...why? Because they're worried and they want to make sure he's ok? Because they ran out of Where's Waldo? books for their analysts?

Not quite the word I was thinking of.

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It kind of only applies to one particular race. I find it offensive. You should desist.

To prosecute, they must acknowledge, Arsalan.

You mean in Gaza? Those were smoke rounds, not AP. Anyway, the latter is propaganda in this context.

So you think soldiers cannot lie, then?

Old Juan Cole was a merry old soul
And a merry Old soul was he
With his graces and his airs
And his Saudi-funded Chairs
And his oil grants a-one-two-three

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Oooh. A whole new conspiracy...also without evidence. Good good!

Which soldiers? None are named in the article? From which unit? When did they make these allegations? How many allege this?

In other threads, one would call this unfounded sensationalism; the press, short of things to do, conjures up boogiemen for the horror of the public.

In fact, one would call it that here too.

 

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Sam, why do I bother?

I give you information backed by sources, legitimate sources. Let me make that multiple legitimate sources (Ghost Wars, Wall Street Journal and The New Yorker). But does that even give you a moment's pause? No, it does not. You simply continue your refrain, backing it up with a laughable google search, which you promptly twist and quote out of context.

Again, why do I bother?

You're a complete waste of energy.

 

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the Afghans could have averted any and all of the effects of war, but they chose to protect a foreigner, Osama bin Laden, instead. It was their choice and now they're suffering for it. Fuck 'em.

Baron Max

 

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Sam cannot trust any info coming out of the US. Sam cannot trust any info coming out of Israel. Sam can trust info coming out of places like jewwatch and islamonline and CAIR, of course. Why, they have their priorities straight.

Not so? :shrug:

 

Well, this was a rather interesting thread until Sam (known liar and fabricator) and Arsalan (apparent conspiracy nut who makes aimless claims) decide to wade in with their kooky ideas. I don't have time to waste talking to people who know nothing about what they speak and aren't willing to learn.

 

The question is WHY the 7 years of nowhere?

Its not What is the objective? Its WHY? Is there actually an objective at all?

 

We were having fun.

Baron Max

 

Why is it so difficult for you to understand and accept that the US has an objective? That this objective is difficult and time-consuming? And that to a large degree the US has failed?

But no, you would rather ascribe what is obvious and easily discernible to smoke and mirrors and conspiracy. Truth is to provincial for you, apparently.

 

Steady on. I was not re-opening my debate. I was only explaining the title of the thread to vhawk..

 

Maybe. Looking for 1 man in a country youve occupied and destroyed for years shouldnt be hard.

It kind of applies to the dumb bigots in a certain part of the US. Unless you think dumb bigots are a race, I will continue to use it.

So acknowledging comes first.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5519433.ece

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/01/10/israel-stop-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5792182.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5575070.ece

Even Israel acknowledged the use of WP.

Sure they can. But I like to apply common sense: Why would a soldier tell people that he had Bin Laden in his sights and was not ordered to take him out knowing full well the reason given for the war and knowing the consequences of his actions. It doesnt make sense.

Ah yes, having no counter argument to the brilliant Cole, you resort to the old tried and tested "HEES A SPY FOR THE MUSSLINSSS!!!" used so tactfully during the recent AIPAC skirmish with Freeman.

Which administration was in power when 9/11 happened? I bet it was Obama!

Google is your friend. Also look up that documentary.

In other threads, one would call this unfounded sensationalism; the press, short of things to do, conjures up boogiemen for the horror of the public.

In fact, one would call it that here too.[/QUOTE]

Except that the press declined to investigate this. In fact, the press treated it as a mere rumor. It was up to a couple of reporters who didnt quite believe what they heard to investigate further and their documentary was having a hell of a time getting air time.

 

The US could have averted 9/11, but they chose to keep fucking with a stranger, Bin Laden. It was their choice and now theyr suffering for it. Fuck em.

Wow :bugeye:

 

Just because SAM and me dont kowtow to your posts and or beliefs about the world, doesnt mean we are liars and or conspiracy nuts.

 

My mistake.

Sam is a known liar and fabricator.

I don't whether you are, but you have consistently posted things with absolutely no proof of them in this thread, and you advance theories that rely on ignoring facts, spinning others and seeing things entire through a slanted prism. Your obsession with the pipeline and belief the US don't want to catch bin Laden are fine examples of such mania.

 

Yeah, big nations should always cowtow to radical fucks like bin Laden! It's the new way of Muslims, ain't it .....blow up things and kill people until the world accepts their rule. Nice, huh?

Baron Max

 

Yeah, weak nations should always cowtow to radical fucks like Americans! It's the new way of the West, ain't it .....blow up things and kill people until the world accepts their rule. Nice, huh?

 

that's exactly why america attacked Iraq, it had nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with being near Saudi Arabia and all that lovely oil- can't have popular Islam running Saudi can they? - no way Jose that must be squashed instanta and the puppets kept in power

 

I'm sorry but what do Iraq and Saudi Arabia have to do with each other?

 

Their massive oil fields and the fact that one was a US puppet and one wasnt. One needed to be shown its place. How dare it try to get more powerful via oil and how dare it try and get noticed by Israel.

 

they are adjacent,- base in one as good as base in tother, base in Iraq better than base on holy soil which upsets your average Muslim no end easy to keep an eye on Saudi from Iraq, obvious really when yo think about it and that was the whole insane neo-con point; secure vital oil supplies and comfort your warmongering Israeli chums

and never mind that you enrage every arabite and arafite in the world

 

So now the war is about bases, too? We have bases aplenty in the region, didn't need to invade a country to get more.

Really? And you come about such universal data how?