Islam vs. the Western World: off-topic posts from a Religion thread

You don't recognise specialist Sabrina Harman?

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Nah. You pussies know that what she comes up with is valid and damaging. Your annoyance is visible in your various ad hominems.

 

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Indeed I do, and I'm not proud of it. It is a stupid stunt. I also know the story behind the death of Manadel Al-Jamadi, which was again a terrible event. The information he might have given had the interrogation not been so incredibly mis-handled and inexcusably deadly, would have been valuable in thwarting more murders. Strongly suspected in the Bagdad red Cross Facility bombing that killed 12 people, The special forces that apprehended him didn't just yank him off the street. They knew who he was. I tend to believe the justification in suspecting him was real. you can dress up a rat and dress up the story also. But then since I already know your agendas, I can take all of this in stride.

 

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All speculation, since there is no information from him. You know how he was killed right? Tied his hands behind his back and strung him up by them. His arm came off his socket and his rib broke and went through his lung. All while the good ole boys were having Pepsi and a good laugh next door. Think he must have screamed? Think they heard him? Think they cared?

His family found out one year later when they saw Harman grinning over his corpse. Another year to find out how he died. Meanwhile he was buried like trash in an unknown grave. They never even got his body.

Animals. May their mothers search for their bodies. Or they search for their children's and never find them

 

*plays a violin*

 

You're spoiling my dramatic moment

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Whatever you two come up with, I know the ultimate valid and damaging annoyance is the whole background of that rat infested sandpit you call the Middle East. Anything you care to point out pales in comparison to the carnage wrought by your poor mis-treated people inhabiting that region, and since the beginning of the disaster that we are only beginning to deal with now. But I would agree we completely mis-handled the War. It should have been ten times more intense from the beginning, and over quickly, instead of the never ending nonsense that ensued. I feel sorry for the American personnel that have had to even step foot on that soil. It in itself isn't worth it. but at least we have shown the people there that a better way is attainable, through self determination in rejecting the way that has been in place (to their shame) for a long time.

 

You mean like the self rule they had before the 1920s, when oil was discovered?

You guys should go jump in a well. We're tired of your hypocrisy.

 

Go play it somewhere else. The real tradgedy here is there was no information gleened from him because of the inexcusable actions of these amateur soldiers. This was no innocent man.

 

He was never charged, he was kidnapped tortured and killed. He was buried in an unknown grave. There is no one more innocent.

 

"Self rule"???? SAM, that area of the world has been under dictatorial or empire rule since ...gazillions of year ago. The fuckin' Iraqis were in "self rule" and never have been until just recently.

Where the fuck do you get your odd, strange, un-historical ideals of the idyllic life in the Middle East?

We're kinda' tired of yours around here, too, SAM! Look at your own filthy country, look how your own Indian people live and die ...kids dying because India won't build sewer systems. And you have the gall to call the American people hypocrits? Damn, if that wasn't so fucking sad, it would hilarious!

Just think, SAM, as today passes, over a thousand little Indian kids died of easily cured diseases ....brought on mainly because Indians shit and piss wherever they want ..mostly right where their own children play!!

Baron Max

 

First of all, we should be pumping our own oil from arab wells. The only reason the Emirates, with their fabulous wealth, are even given attention, is the oil. Otherwise they would still be picking fleas off of their camels. As it is, they fly into this country with their whores and bucks, while pretending to be anything but stinking flesh. You of course are different I assume, while You concentrate on your failing agenda. I have expierienced this first hand.

 

Amazing. Still living in hubris. Pride before the fall. Enjoy the ride.

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He was so bad that they took a chance in their over-confidence, and failed miserably.

 

That will be the epitaph of your country.

 

Even if we fall, SAM, we'll have more than the people of Iraq and Afghanistan ever had!!

If our nation goes totally into dire depression and poverty, we'll have far more than the people of Iraq or Afghanistan ever had or ever will have.

Baron Max

 

Yeah we know

God Bless the USA

 

You fell a long time ago, sammy. thats what this whole show is all about.

 

The epitath of yours was written long ago. whatever ours may be, it will outshine the stillborn form of yours, even in our despair.

 

Well it's funny actually.

Sam gets all bitchy about how cruel America is where she doesnt even look at her own countries.

They believe that child rape is legal
It is okay for an adult to have sex with their child
They behead foreigners
They hang American construction workers that were building them a new bridge
Where a woman gets flogged 40 times because she went to a movie with a male friend
When a man rapes a woman the woman is either charged with having sex before marriage (jail), or for adulturizing (stoning).
To sell a daughter into marriage at the age of 12 or even younger (disgusting).
Any woman that isn't dressed enough is either jailed or killed.

Atleast that poor fellow was not stoned to death

It's like the inquisition
People can be killed purely for gossiping.


SAM, how bout you stop bitching about the west and explain how supposedly peaceful, advanced, intelligent (by that i mean 40% literacy rate), and sweet loving people, rape children, flog old woman, and sell children for a new donkey.