Free Will

thank you for your uhm advice...and I shall consider the issue of disclosure more over the next few months.....

 

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good

when your ready

thinking

 

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Yeah... yeah... consideration... yeah over.. uh, months yeah... great... wonderfulll OH dear lord.

 

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Isn't it obvious? I'm taking control of the will-less masses. Since they admit to not having any free will they have no choice but to OBEY!

Bwahahaha!!! Fall in line will-less PAWNS!!!

 

some times pandoras box needs to be tested to make sure the lid seals properly.

[cryptic side comment to those who may need it]

 

is the box sealed properly ? QQ

 

given certain behaviours noticed here [current physical location].......and in this thread...nope...not yet

 

I thought not

 

Sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes sorta.

nope.

Things happen from time to time for no discernable reason.

 

as you know, pleasure when way too intense can be very painful....which is why the box is evolving.

 

and Reason

 

Then its not terribly convincing.

Well, yes that is what it menas.

So god spoke to you but didn't really say anything of note? The god of banal greetings is amoung us!!! You wouldn't think a god would have so much trouble saying things that could be verified.

The way you throw the term around and refuse to expand upon it makes me think you haven't the first clue what that research actually meant.

 

Swarm---Sometimes yes...

Swarm---nope.

Swarm---Things happen from time to time for no discernable reason.

 

That is a comforting feeling for some, but it doesn't seem a justified assumption.

All I can say is I held this opinion to begin with but several physicists who understand quantum physics have explained to me that this just isn't how it works and the evidence that this is not how it works is very well established.

I understand this is disagreeable to some people, even other physicists, but I have to go with the current preponderence of the evidence.

I regret I don't have the math to discuss this directly, perhaps there are physicists hanging about who can do so in the physics threads.

The speed of light makes it impossible to know everything at one specific time interval. There is an envelope of Cdt which will effect the next moment but is further than you can know about.

So you claim, but the evidence fails to pan out that way.

Choosing is not a chain of dominoes. It is the complex interaction of billions of living organisms with trillions of interconnections which have both standing patterns of activity, self reference, traces of previous experience, attention, awareness, and choice.

Just like formal logic cannot handle the self reference in the liar's paradox, your formal causality cannot handle free will. The doesn't mean there is not free will. It means your system of explaning behavior in not sufficient to the task.

 

if you don''t already know then you will not understand nor accept the reason.

 

There is an old saying I think:
"Ignorance is bliss" and this is one of those times when it truly is.

 

The integral people draw unsupportable conclusions about the observer effect, such as there needs to be an observer and that consiouness is involved.

 

You seem to be trying to equate reason and cause.

 

A spade is a spade, unless its a trump.

 

What chain of events is forcing you to do this!!!!