Is limbaugh the intellectual force of the Republican party?

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  1. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I think Obama should debate limbaugh!
     
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  3. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Why?

    Obama is the president. He should act like one and do presidential things. The fact he has minions stirring Limbaugh up for petty political reasons is already disappointing enough.
     
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  5. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    limbaugh is the defacto leader of the Republican Party and he is out trying to cause a ruckus about the stimulus and other issues. A quick way to put an end to limbaugh's nonsense is to expose it to the light of day in an open and public debate...an airing of ideas.
     
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  7. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    He's not the defacto leader. As the link I posted shows, this is a position put out by the Democrats for dubious political reasons. You're buying it.
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    True, and it's a brilliant political move. Now Limbaugh looks like the figurehead of conservative thought. At the same time, we all know he says nutty things, so he makes the Republicans look nutty. It's like the right characterizing Ward Churchill as representative of higher education.
     
  9. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I would have given your position merit before Steele came out and cow-towed to limbaugh. It is now clear that limbaugh is the one calling the shots in the Republican Party.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Well, he doesn't want to alienate people that, while perhaps not the core voters, are still voters (and doners), with a loud voice.
     
  11. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Now you have all of the key players in the Republican Party bowing before king limbaugh.
     
  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The fact that they are numerous and diversified shows they are not equivalent to CPAC.
    I didn't say "Democratic" think tanks - which are scarce enough - but "leftist" think tanks, which hardly exist.

    When K Street was in the business of lobbying Democrats, it was a fifth its current size and budget. The growth in the corporate lobbying arena since the Republican takeover in '94, followed by the explosion since W moved into the White House, has been phenomenal.

    As with Limbaugh, they are best dealt with openly - as with other entities using bully power, they expand in their influence when ignored.
     
  13. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    These entities are like coachroaches the love the dark. That is one reason I find the Obama administration so refreshing. The American government is not longer for sale to the highest bidder.
     
  14. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    It may be brilliant -- in some morally dubious Machiavellian partisan calculation -- but it's hardly the sort of ploy we expected from St. Obama, and it's hardly what the country needs at this particular moment, is it?
     
  15. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Today limbaugh offered to debate Obama on his terms in his radio studio. Of course the president should not accept the offer. The president should counter offer and make the location the White House or some neutral ground in a format similar to the Presidential Debates. It would be good for the country to hear both sides.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Ha ha ha, you guys can dish it out but... It's about time the Democrats learned how to do this.
     
  17. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, that's rich, Spider. Other people "did it" so you should "do it" too. Trouble is Obama is supposed to be different. He's supposed to be into change, remember?
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It only took a quick sound bite.
     
  19. ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    No, he shouldn't debate Limbaugh at all, original offer, counteroffer, whatever. It would only give Limbaugh more legitimacy as Obama's opposition. Why would you want that?
     
  20. countezero Registered Senior Member

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    Apparently, they have subscribed to their party's idea: That is, setting up this straw man and beating on him will be a good thing for the Democratic majority, in that it further weakens the Republicans. As I said earlier, while this might be politically sound, it strikes me as exactly the kind of chicanery people didn't expect to see from St. Obama.
     
  21. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    For one the Democratic Party is not my party. A debate with limbaugh would expose him for what he is. And that I think would be good for the nation. He is a lot like McCarthy.
     
  22. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Some were I remember a quote, That a Politician should never get into a fight with the media, as they will always end up on the short end of the stick.

    Right now THE Obama and his advisor, Dead Fish Rhom Emmanuel, are looking like total amutures, by their attacks they have elevated Limbaugh, a entertainer to a status, of having the Ability to Call the President out for a Debate.

    Not a winning situation for the President, no matter what happens.

    He Refuses, he loses, looks like a coward.

    He accepts, and all He does is make Rush even bigger.

    So THE Obama and his advisors have bit a dog in the ass with this strategy.

    THE Rushman
    wins,
     
  23. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think it would give him more legitimacy. I think it would destroy limbaugh. It would expose him for what he is. He has a lot of garbage.
     
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