We Are Not Alone

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by TruthSeeker, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    Dont hope for a meeting that can turn out to be the end of our civilization in less than it takes match to burn.
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    Our civilization is clearly not ready for contact, yet. There is a characteristic our civilization has not developed yet that keeps us from being part of the rest of the intelligent universe. I wouldnt know what characteristic they are looking for, my guess is compassion...but I could very well be wrong.
     
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  7. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Oh noooo. You mean we are not special...again?

    Copernicus revisited.
     
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    Prosecution is the natural antibody of society, if our civilization would not have such events in our history, we would be off the wrong road of development.
     
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    Astronomers should search more of the cooler, dwarf stars. Dwarf stars are abundant in the universe and detecting a small planet is much easier. The most earth-like planet ever discovered was orbiting one of such stars.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6589157.stm
     
  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I agree, most of us are not ready.
     
  11. draqon Banned Banned

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    Astronomers don't have to look far. If Life did originate from comets as some theories assume, these comets could be traced back. And even so, just look at Europa, the potential of the moon to harbor life is beyond most of the planets found out of solar system.
     
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    are you familiar with Ronald Regans speach to the UN ?

    we are on the cusp of things that are happening in our space
     
  13. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Who says it will be up to us?
     
  14. draqon Banned Banned

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    We're still alive, clearly for a reason.
     
  15. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    You have proof?
     
  16. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know how much MORE ready we could be.
     
  17. draqon Banned Banned

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    proof of what? That the reason we are still alive is to see if our civilization has what it takes not to destroy itself?
     
  18. thinking Banned Banned

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    we still exist and/or not controlled by another being
     
  19. draqon Banned Banned

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    Exactly, we don't. They do.
     
  20. thinking Banned Banned

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    how true Dragon , how true

    not many look OUT THERE
     
  21. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    You said we are alive for a reason. Do you have proof that what you say is the truth?

    If I can relate it to the topic at hand then I can interpret it more than one way.... We're here because we are destined to meet aliens.....we are alive because aliens want it that way..... we are alive because we aren't dead yet and it would be difficult to contact us if we're extinct...etc. etc.
     
  22. D H Some other guy Valued Senior Member

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    The study did not suggest that at all.

    How Alan Boss came to his conclusion regarding abundant Earth-type planets is very unclear.
    This conclusion is completely contrary to what we have observed to date and to models of planetary formation. There may well be no terrestrial planets in those systems with hot Jupiters. Those hot Jupiters form roughly where our Jupiter formed but migrate starward due to interaction with the accretion disk (Type II migration). If terrestrial planets did form in such systems, they would most likely very water-rich. Of those planetary systems we have found that don't hot Jupiters, most have giant planets with highly eccentric orbits. These would wreck havoc with the orbits of any terrestrial planets that did manage to form.

    IMO, the best resolution of the Fermi paradox is that there are no other intelligent species in our galaxy.
     
  23. draqon Banned Banned

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    And best assumption of Fermi paradox is that life does not exist to begin with. This is all an illusion. You DH dont exist. Oh how in this mathematical anamoly did Earth even have a chance.
     

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