Why is life worth living?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by s0meguy, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. s0meguy Worship me or suffer eternally Valued Senior Member

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    Help me out here. I'm having trouble finding good reasons to continue living, and not "exit". I don't consider life and facing its challenges, worth the effort. I'd rather exit so that I'll never have to face any problems again. Which is what I'm going to do soon, unless I find reason not to.
     
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  3. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Dont you derive any pleasure or happiness out of life...that would make the other 10% of negative experience worth it?

    Have you considered that perhaps there is no escape from life, and that you will simply enter some other life form after death?
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    Sex is the purpose of life.
     
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  7. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    Do you live in Somalia?
     
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  9. Lux Registered Member

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    you should try and take your apathy about life and use it as a strength, if you really feel you can give it all up, then you should try living it for a while with this in mind.

    it can be quite liberating, living life for noone but yourself. life doesn't have to be a challenge, you don't need to opt out on life, just opt out of thee life you had been living.

    go to a scenic spot and soak in the view for a while, it will make life seem beautiful
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I understand your dilemma. Do you have any family, either wife or kids? Do you have any living relatives like mother, uncles or cousins? They would all be the ones you would hurt the most if you were to leave them for they wanted you to be around to be with. Do you have friends for they also enjoy your company as well and I'm sure none of them wants to see you leave so talk to a friend if you trust them as well.

    It ultimately comes down to you and what you think. I f you believe there's nothing more to life and are frustrated then you can and should see a professional that can help you with talk and medicines that can and do help you for I take them now and would not be here without them.
     
  11. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    Do you feel like your struggles outweigh the benefits you get out of being alive?

    Are you more often depressed than happy?

    Do you not believe in an afterlife, and don't think that it matters when you die?

    Is the only thing stopping you right now the pain it will cause your family and friends?

    If so... I can see why you would want an exit and I feel just miserable for you. And I think the fact that none of us can rush in here and give you clear-cut reasons for why you should keep on living is a testimony to how weak or nonexistent those justifications are. It is a real dilemma, friend. I hate that you are going through this.

    My advice is to give yourself plenty of time to think everything through. It is a one-way decision and it should not be taken lightly.

    Many years ago I went through a rough patch. Divorce, death in the family, laid off, moving to new city, it all happened in the span of a few weeks. I remember seriously contemplating just going to a bridge and seeing if I could fly. I was 20 years old.

    Over the last 13 years I have been to dozens of countries, spent hours in museums, read hundreds of books, watched tons of great films, fell in mad-love with a new wife, got the best dog on the planet, owned several great homes, explored so much of the US, and made some really phenomenal posts on a few forums. The "present" me would have been really pissed at the "former" me if I had given into a temporary bout of depression. There is so much I would have missed out on...

    Death is going to embrace us all one day. You will spend trillions and trillions and trillions of "years" NOT-existing, but only about 78 doing something else. Even if what you are feeling is pain, it is a rare chance to feel SOMETHING. The air on your skin, a lungfull of air, they are rare thrills even when they burn.

    Keep in mind that everything we do will always HAVE HAPPENED. There will be no human around to remember us. No god to celebrate our actions, but nothing, not the Big Crunch or the Heat Death can ever make the things we did or didn't do NOT HAPPEN. I take great solace in this thought, and it hardens my already-strict ethical sense.

    Finally, you should try the mystical art of "faking it". Go do something productive, even though you don't want to. Once you get started, you will probably find that your actions are making you happier, and the sense of completing a chore will lift your spirits. Go clean some gutters or make the entire house as clean as it can get. Accomplishment is the key to happiness.

    All the best.
     
  12. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Or only that happiness is not made out of information.

    There is no article of conceptual belief that can suddenly make anyone happy.

    Those who have died and been brought back to life have an infinity of insight undreamed of by a thousand philosophers and priests.
     
  13. Ladicius Registered Senior Member

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    Life's worth living cause death's no better.
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    'Exiting' doesn't solve a thing. You won't know that you don't have any problems anymore. You won't know anything.. you'd be dead. It's not some sort of relief being dead.
    The only thing you achieve by killing yourself is the painful process itself. Is that how you want to spend your last seconds, being a depressed ass in a lot of pain ?
    At least you still have life right now, that alone is worth not dying over.
     
  15. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    So someguy what do think about life now?
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think anything we say will change his mind. He has to figure this out himself..
     
  17. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    And I don't think that human-haters should involve themselves. There is quite a conflict of interests going on here.

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  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    1. I'm no human hater.
    2. See post 11
     
  19. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    Post 11 can't undo the posts where you compare us to a cancer, and wish we would go extinct, and berate people for having too many kids, etc...

    I figured you would be in here making sure the TS knew to cut vertically and not horizontally.

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  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I could defend myself here but it seems it's of no use.
    The second I say something about humanity being a cancer in my opinion, or something similar, you people have already made up your mind about me.

    You guys just don't get it..
     
  21. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe if you could describe us in a way that isn't analogous to the most horrific, slow, and painful death imaginable we could get past all of that.

    Although, I think you and I both agree on what humans need to do to get better, and that our argument to the TS is that life can be extremely satisfying. Where we differ is that I see us moving in a positive direction and you see us in decline.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well I happen to think that's a pretty accurate analogy.
    But I don't think this is the place to discuss this.

    Correct. I don't necessarily see humanity in decline though, more it's environment. Though I don't think humanity is going to get away from it's own doing unscathed.

    I have friends and I know many people that are good people. I find my life satisfying. So it's not that. It's humanity as a whole that I have a problem with.
     
  23. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    It is better to fight and live with the chaos of life, neigh fight it, than to kill yourself trying to get away from it. There's something i learned from Hamlet.
     

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