Worst thing about your religion?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Michael, Jan 22, 2009.

  1. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Which brings me to another thing that bugs me: the hyper-eclectic, love-n-light, fluffy-bunny pseudo-pagans, the ones who say, "Wicca is anything you want it to be".
    Though they are free to believe whatever they want, I think they should name their system correctly, and consider themselves as New Agers, not Wiccans or neopagans. They're giving neopagans a really bad name, and give Wicca in particular an inaccurate public image.
     
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  3. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    Actually I though it was the emo neopagan uptight anal wiccans that were giving the hyper-eclectic, love-n-light, fluffy-bunny neopagan wiccans a bad name.

    Like there's a right way to cos-play being a witch.
     
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  5. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    Or its a buch of crap ripped off other religions and repackaged for jews and then ripped off and sold to gullible gentiles.

    All Praise The Ancient Of Daze
     
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  7. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    It creates expectations that cannot possibly be fulfilled.
     
  8. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    hehe

    meanwhile, try and keep your partner satisfied
     
  9. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    I don't particularly have a problem with that, I'm confident. Heh.

    Really what I was talking about was placing the focus of people's attention onto a future world which does not exist (obviously because it's in the future and existence implies now-ness). That doesn't matter if you believe it your entire life because you're dead, and you don't believe or hope for anything. However, if you lose faith in that future, or ideal, world then you're likely to lose faith in everything.
     
  10. Adstar Valued Senior Member

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    Once is not condemned for what they believe. One is condemned for rejecting the only way to Salvation. It is not a case of being doomed for believing this or that it is a case of being doomed for rejecting Jesus.


    I don't prove anything. The message is there. it is the message that does the work.


    It is not a claim. it is a central tenant of my faith. It is a claim written in the Bible. It is not something claimed by Christians through a sense of superiority or just opinion. We believe Jesus on the Matter and He said He was the only way to the Father.


    If there is One God then He has one Will for all mankind. It does make sense.


    Once again i am not here to prove Hell exists. People can read the Word and then decide for themselves.


    Now the above is a statement that makes no sense.

    Two people in a court case give different statements as to what happened at a crime scene. We don’t say that they are either both right or both wrong do we. No we investigate the two statements to try to find the truth of the matter.


    Why Not? If a God gives free will and that free will allows people to embrace their desire and if their desire is evil then not only are they worthy of condemnation for the evil be double so because they loved evil.


    Nope.


    Yes it does indeed Matter when there is only one God and His will is the Only will that matters in eternity.


    All Praise The Ancient Of Days
     
  11. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Is there anything *your* Paganism you would rather NOT believe and engage?

    No?

    Well then...you are no different.
     
  12. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    so...

    is a lie.

    The lie needs some one to tell it.

    So you are double condemned.

    All Praise The Ancient Of Daze
     
  13. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    You can never be right within a religion but no one is ever always right anyway. Religions put standards so high that you can never attain them.
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    You are doomed for rejecting Allah. You are doomed for rejecting Jehovah. You are doomed for rejecting peanut butter and pickle sandwiches.
     
  15. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    The worst part about my actual religion is uncertainty. I don't know what happens next, after this life. Is there something more? I don't know my belief system provides no answers. I'll just have to cross that bridge when I get there I guess. I'm cool with that.
     
  16. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Finally somebody said it, religion is like sex. You have to have it at least once a week.
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    that's my point

    this world is the very medium of ideals (that cannot be fulfilled)

    IOW try as we might, we cannot avoid ascribing eternal values to the temporary things of this world.

    The irony is however that despite the historical failure rate of 100% (you name it, either you will separate yourself from it, or it will separate from you), practically everyone goes on with 100% confidence in the matter.

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    Religion however, is the only discipline that can speak of objects/states of being capable of withholding eternal values
     
  18. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Unless one is presented with a discipline that appears "do-able", I guess one can never really begin (despite reading so much etc etc).

    Its no coincidence that religion has one of the highest possibilities to exhibit hypocrisy - the higher the standard, the less likely that people in general will be able to adhere to it .... therefore we see that there is a range of religious principles to accommodate people in their commitment to steady spiritual progress
     
  19. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Fixed.

    In any case, Wicca and witchcraft are not the same thing. Not all witches are Wiccans. Wicca is a very specific religion. While centring around witchcraft and ritual magic, like other forms of religious witchcraft, Wicca has particular attributes and practices that are specific to it.
    Likewise, one can easily be a Christian Witch, or a New Age witch, or whatever; because witchcraft, usually religious witchcraft, is a far broader subject that just Wicca.
     
  20. John99 Banned Banned

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    yeah, and depending on how much weed you smoke the 'spells' work better too.
     
  21. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't know. I don't smoke weed, and I don't do spellwork. I'm sceptical of the effectiveness of both.

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  23. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    I know people that do practice spellwork, though. According to them, a lot of it has to with the state of mind of the person doing it; i.e., if you do it half-heartedly, it probably won't work well, but if you're confident in the action, it will work. The basis of their opinion, I guess, is that spellwork takes one's willpower into consideration.
     

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