The origin of life re-created?

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  1. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    I guess the anti-evolutionists/creationists would reject the meaning of it outright anyway
     
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  3. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    I'd guess that they would claim it proves that life can only be created when an intelligent agent is there to mix the broth.
     
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  5. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    lab results doesn't always mean real world results.

    i also believe this "RNA" type of research has been going on since about 2000
     
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  7. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Exaclty, they would turn it around to make a stronger argument for creationism. If we can make life then surely God can

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  8. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    Haha... except that the men in the lab are setting up experiments to be carefully devoid of intelligent tinkering. They are just putting chemicals in close proximity that must have been doing the same thing, with no helping agent, billions of years ago.

    I agree that the creationists will attempt to do this, but it won't be intellectually honest, will it? <--- man, that question doesn't even deserve a response. Forgive me.
     
  9. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the RNA world was first proposed like 20 years ago. it doesn't seem to be making much progress.
    the prognosis isn't looking good.
     
  10. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    What's the "RNA world"

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  11. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    indeed - an intellectually honest creationist? what's next? a philanthropist republican?
     
  12. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    basically its a hypothesis that early life / proto life was RNA based - not DNA.

    I think it has something to do with the fact that RNA acts as both a storage medium for protein coding, and acts as a catalyst at the same time - or something like that.

    Google Walter Gilbert and you'll probly find some more info on it
     
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  14. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    Whatever happened...

    ... It worked!

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  15. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the very fact that we are here proves something worked, that's for sure.
     
  16. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    And that it only worked so well leads me to believe that it was all an accident.

    If I were an all-powerful deity, there would be no gradual increase in entropy. For one thing, people wouldn't have to eat, since that would just lead to starvation and the need for living things to consume one-another - Outrageous!

    Also, every now and then I would have solid objects float around mysteriously, just to let everyone know that I was there. You know, defy the laws of physics a few times a year. Keep people on their toes.

    Another thing I would do is announce myself so people would quit killing each other over different ideas of what I am like. I might also blink away all guns while I am at it.

    I have some things not even occur to animals, such as rape. Female mallard ducks would actually enjoy the sex act and be able to have it performed on them without their heads being held underwater. I might also protect human women from similar abuse.

    The entire habitat for my grand creation would also not be a tiny marble in an incomprehensibly vast void. Instead, it would all take place on an infinite plane, stretching out in all directions, allowing no limit to the exploration and growth of men, and no end to the variety of experiences and obstacles for them to overcome. Heaven would be clearly visible from the highest peaks, and we would root on our most noble humans, and show them the rewards they would receive for choosing goodness. Not as a bribe, mind you, but a just reward. Since people would know it is there, it would keep them from remarrying after a death, preventing embarrassing love-triangles from forming.
     
  17. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    who said anything about an all powerful deity?
     
  18. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Nice one swivel - you got a gut laugh from me for that one - such a shame that the best God can do these days is muster up a Bagel in the shape of the virgin mary

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  19. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    My parents. My pastor. My friends. My President. My favorite college football player...
     
  20. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Ahhhhhhh, thanks guys

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  21. Iasion Registered Senior Member

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    Gday,

    Very funny.

    Creationism was first proposed two-three THOUSAND YEARS ago,
    and has made no progress.

    In fact it's gone backwards - nowadays we realise it's just an ancient fantasy, with no basis in reality.


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