Objective Reality

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by fess, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. Gustav Banned Banned

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    no
    i do

    i as opposed to?

    identity?
    gotta be with regards to something, ja?

    it is a necessity
    animate or inanimate

    the perspectives are distinct tho and it is my impression you mix and match

    sociology and consciousness
    i need to dig up article
    kinda like we are nothing without feedback

    /pinch me
     
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  3. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I see. It's not that bad. Most major manufactures can make a pretty decent electron microsocope and with regular maintenance and a spare, you aren't going to see alot of mis-observations from malfunction.

    Of course I do, because I can inject a certain type of information into myself and turn off my perception.

    If I was interested, I would ask the person how the red ball got there... just like we use science to ask reality how something happened.
     
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  5. Gustav Banned Banned

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    methodology in detail please
     
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  7. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Go for it. You can throw those assumptions away once you've completed the task.

    Sounds like some mighty incoherent reasoning. And you didn't provide evidence that "nothing" exists.
     
  8. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Reality is an unreliable truck, then. Insisting that things may or may not exist all the time...
     
  9. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Wouldn't a particle in superposition be no thing. In fact isn't it silly to refer to it as a particle or anything really. (hey, what the hell, I like a challenge)
     
  10. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    lol So you'd base your conclusions on your perception of their perception? I hope science works slightly better than this.
     
  11. Gustav Banned Banned

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    many minds is usually mightier than one
     
  12. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    I'm sorry that my reasoning is unacceptable, oh great one. Perhaps you could show me the error of my ways by demonstrating the existence of anything outside of my perception. Simple enough task, for you, anyway, right?
     
  13. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    True enough. But somehow many turds have just as much odor as one.
     
  14. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    My point. Thank you.
     
  15. Gustav Banned Banned

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    science?
    based on axiomatic formulations agreed upon by a consensus of opinion

    certitude?
    go to religion
     
  16. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Gustav-amen!
     
  17. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Me too.

    Happens every night when I sleep.

    Epiphenomena of a functioning brain.

    I see all matters of existence as all or none. Everything else is on a gradient. Check your statement "...no more energy is required to GENERATE...". That's exactly a requirement to generate... an expenditure of energy. For a human adult, thats an immense amount of joules. Boom! Crater.


    Flickering between nothing and something? Forget the crater. The universe would be repeatedly blasted to smitherines.

    Consequently "Not I" would be an inversion of you (which is something),
     
  18. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Are you sure about these ideas?
     
  19. Gustav Banned Banned

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    easily proven wrong

    hmm
    irreverence
    small doses is good
     
  20. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    So the experiencing self, that sifted through its experience and discovered all the ideas in both religion and science is merely epi. In fact it even came up with the idea that it is peripheral. This last ought to count for something.
     
  21. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    We can observe today that reality was quite present before humans; therefore, if humans bite the dust reality will remain quite present.
     
  22. Gustav Banned Banned

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    i havent a clue
    what do we take for granted that allow us to be?
     
  23. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    I can't refer to any others.
     

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