Why is God the Creator?

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  1. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Why is God generally referred to as the creator. Or the cause of causes? Why is this so important?

    God is credited with the universe and that other realm of incomprehension. When it comes right down to it, I can do anything God can do, in my mind that is. I can conceptualize, think and yes I can even create anything in my mind. In that respect God and all of us are equal. So where does that leave us?

    Well God cannot be us, can it? So God must be able to do things we can't. One is to create something from nothing. This amazing feat is one of the things that sets us apart from God and it may be the only thing.

    The question is, how much do you want to trust your mind? You already know that the mind is capable of creating some very clever things but why aren't our thoughts of a god included in the inventive category? Why does most of the world not accept that God is a construct of the mind?
     
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  3. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Its a prerequisite for being fully independent, which is a marked distinction between the living entity and god

    because you are not fully independent, you are not always capable of doing what you can merely do in your mind

    of course not
    Actually god creates things from his eternal contingent potencies. We, on the other hand, have practically zero contingent potencies. If god didn't have contingent potencies, but rather, was contingent on them (like we are), he would not be fully independent.

    one could verily ask ...

    The question is, how much do you want to trust your mind? You already know that the mind is capable of creating some very clever things but why aren't our thoughts of a god's non-existence included in the inventive category? Why does most of the world accept that God is a construct of the mind?
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  5. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Just thinking, when I dream am I making something from nothing? I can form images, create animation and a host of other things by just dreaming. When I'm just sitting around contemplating things I can concoct almost anything in my mind.

    What is the difference if I say God & the universe came in together than say God was here first and created the universe? For that matter, god could have come after the universe.

    If God is the giver of life then is God alive? If He created life then it implies God isn't alive, doesn't it? Perhaps God is a machine

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  7. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    if you don't have food to eat and a place to keep the rain off, the extent and capacity of your concoction will dramatically diminish
    the difference is that if you say god came after the universe you have a god that is contingent on something ..... and a (theoretical) definition most theists don't even begin to work with

    then, perhaps not ....

    Katha UP 2.2.13 The Supreme Lord is eternal and the living beings are eternal. The Supreme Lord is cognizant and the living beings are cognizant. The difference is that the Supreme Lord is supplying all the necessities of life for the many other living entities.
     
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  8. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    firstly.
     
  9. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    teekcanoonoomoots!

    if your so concerned about how righteous you are, why do you feel the need to spread your word? if its so simple why think about it and yet you feel in the end is nothing, why do you preach?
     
  10. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    The "supreme lord" is just a fantasy you read about in a book written by bored superstitious ignorant bronze age people.
     
  11. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    You know for a fact that God doesn't need to replenish. Scripture please. The Jews and the Christians have a God that rests, why?

    Who says it has to be that way? Where is the contingency if they both arrived at the same time?

    Including the evil doers, that's nice. It will no longer be upsetting to me to hear of a murderer dumping a victim's body in a field knowing that God is supplying nourishment to the needy creatures in the surrounding area.

    By creating us He provides the necessities of life for parasites, pathogens and an assortment of other creatures that would just as soon dine on me than anything else. I'm food but at least I'm at or near top of the chain

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  12. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Your atheism is just a fantasy you concoct from your frog like existence, taking a moment out of your bottom of the well existence to bolster up otherwise futile and useless engagements in a society similarly engaged.
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Psychotic episode
    yes

    SB 6.4.48 I am the reservoir of unlimited potency, and therefore I am known as unlimited or all-pervading. From My material energy the cosmic manifestation appeared within Me

    etc etc

    The word 'rest' in Hebrew is connected to a musical notation, which means "to pause".
    arrived from where?
    yes even evil doers have requirements, much like persons in jail do too
    what sounds better to you?
    Having an extinguished free will

    or

    having the ability to work through one's crooked desires and concomitant reactions through a virtual reality machine (ie "this world")
    and then when your body finally perishes you may end up as a worm or a king or even liberated from the whole mortal scene altogether, depending on how you act in the human form of life. In either of these three states of being, god will be supplying the necessities for your existence
     
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  14. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    What, people didn't believe Him? Someone obviously doubts this claim or God wouldn't be pressing the issue, who is it? Is God concerned that someone thinks His power is weak, if so then why would He care?

    After the sixth day God stopped for a musical interlude?
     
  15. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    You didn't know that !?! It was The William Tell Overture with the Dragnet Theme spliced into the middle.
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  16. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    Don't you ever get bored of enacting a psychotic episode?

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    I mean, look at the way you reply to posts: You delete about a half of the post you are replying to, ignore questions put to you, and tend to focus on details that you can deride. You keep asking questions but usually ignore the answers given to you. What good could anyone possibly hope for in such a communication?!

    Perhaps God sent you to test Lightgigantic's (and every other poster's) patience and wisdom ...
     
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  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Psychotic Episode
    god is concerned with our ignorance

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    just a pause ....
     
  18. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Evidently not.
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  19. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    even you

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  20. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    No god has contacted me about it. Can it not find me?
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  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    whenever you're willing
     
  22. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    It can't find me & contact me unless I'm willing yet it's concerned for my ignorance. Square triangle.
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  23. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    we are already found and contacted ... infact we don't have the possibility of not being. The problem is that we are currently investing willingness in what rotting molars, dead hamsters and fleeting youth can bestow .... something like a badly tuned radio, if you like
     

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