Vedic astrologer vs. a skeptic

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by lightgigantic, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    What type of scientists studied Astrology? The pseudoscientists?

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  3. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    who studied?
    What did they study exactly?
    what were the results?


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    another statement of ignorance ....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya_Siddhanta
     
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  5. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    Still strawmaning, huh?

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    As for instant karma - right back atcha!
     
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  7. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    As usual your post is a mix of poor grmmar, bad spelling and specious arguments.
    And utterly incorrect.
     
  8. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well Oli I sorry that it grazed your feelings, Its good that you can find some confidence in something, without it you would be at a loss completely.

    None the less since you do not have the abilty to conduct science, wouldn't you like to qoute someone else that actually has some knowledge. After all you said utterly incorrect, so i assume you can demonstate at least some repeat of science conducted by some else that shows the study of astology to be false. Again you said it was false would you at least give us your evidence. Why? are you hiding your secret from the rest of us, share your evidence.

    Silly Oli nothing to offer but "no" and "I don't know " or "you don't know"comments when will you know.

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  9. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Oops, wrong again - you haven't even touched my feelings.

    Continuing the same mistaken assumption?
    For shame.

    Why should I quote someone else?
    I'm quite capable of sticking up for myself with my own words.

    And now you show your intensely poor grasp of reading comprehension: my comment "utterly incorrect" was appended to a quote of yours stating that I don't know the basics of science.
     
  10. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well, OK Oli so what is it then that your think defines astrology as false.....

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  11. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    The fact that every study done using the scientific method has shown that it is false. (It's a fairly large clue to a scientist...)
     
  12. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    Curious ones. Carl Sagan comes to mind.
     
  13. kmguru Staff Member

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    who studied?
    What did they study exactly?
    what were the results?

    another statement of ignorance ....

    Astrology not Astronomy....

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  14. kmguru Staff Member

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    Not Astronomy silly...Astrology...do not get confused....If Wolfram studied it, that would be something...
     
  15. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    now could be a good time to check out the link in the OP

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  16. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    actually the literacy skills of many persons studying science is atrocious. I know at university many of them pay students in humanities to type up their assignments since it works out less painful that way.

    this is also a phenomena that crops up quite regularly in science too
     
  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    I did. The accuracy was 69%, 63%, 89%, 71%, 74%, 66% etc.

    When I was in college, I was about 85% accurate. I dropped out on making prediction and analysis for about 10 years. Then I was in China and they pushed me to do readings...I was again 85% correct. In one occasion I said this senior Chinese gentleman has two kids...everybody knows they are allowed only one. After a lot of discussion, he admitted to have two. It is hard to fake numbers.

    The tool I used - Palmistry....why some of these things work, there may not be any scientific basis....
     
  18. DwayneD.L.Rabon Registered Senior Member

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    Well Oli, So what you are saying is that you or these scientist have Kicked the pail and because the Moon did not move as a result of your kicking the pail, you do not find evidence that supports the effect of stars or planets on human life in your opinion or observation.
    So surely you think of your self as larger than the Moon! so your sense for focus and discovery is 2000 ft or less as in your preception you are larger than the Moon and your exsperiments of dectection failed.

    If the light of the moon causes your eye to contract as a result of dialation from exsposer to light, that is the lunar effect of the moon. So is proof of effect.

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  19. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    For some people an argument for gods or for aligning the planets to discern the person cannot be refuted. Its in their heads and is not leaving.

    My terminology may be wrong here but.... While visiting a planetarium a couple years ago I was informed that the stars in the original Zodiac(my apologies Vedic lovers) astrological charts have all moved enough in the last 2000 years so that they now reside in different houses. Yet astrologers still come up with high ratings from their customers or believers even though they have not adjusted their charts to account for the movement of stars.

    Stars do move. The Vedic astrologers account for this as I understand. The claim is that the Vedic astrologers are better at what? predicting? or delivering the goods to people who need to hear their life told to them?

    Anyway, just how much more accurate is debatable. The claim is as I see it, better but only marginally better. The Zodiac astrologers , even with charts that indicate ancient star positions are damn near as good as the Vedics who actually track heavenly bodies. The fact is that the Vedics should be in a class by themselves, damn near perfect.

    Why wasn't our expert tested alongside a Zodiac astrologer? At least we could have compared. And what about bias? In an obviously one sided test, what did you expect?
     
  20. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    Check my questions earlier in this thread, and the answers to them.
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    did you see the bit about the ex-astrologer who said she realized she was using psychology?
    .... but even if you simply went with photocopies of people's palms, 85% strikes you as a midway figure?
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    did you see the bit about the ex-astrologer who said she realized she was using psychology?
    wait up

    you open up with this tirade about how the zodiac has shifted and then acknowledge that the vedic paradigm doesn't work with that shifting zodiac .... yet now you somehow claim that this connection makes them both more or less culpable?
    :wtf:
     
  23. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    He studied both actually. He did quite a bit of research into astrology and concluded it was bunk.

    He did not come to the same conclution about parapsychology so you can't just dismiss him as closed minded either.


    Not that you care, or you wouldn't be one of the faithful to begin with.
     

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