Walking With Monsters

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by OilIsMastery, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Roman Banned Banned

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    All tetrapods have pharyngeal gill slits.
     
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  3. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Again, beautiful, colored pictures from OIM!! I love them!
     
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  5. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    I wish there were some math I could post to support evolution. Unfortunately there isn't any.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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  8. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Can you show me the math program that shows how man evolved from Haikuichthys in the Cambrian and later from Cephalaspis in the Silurian even though it actually lived in the Devonian?
     
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  9. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    Because each species adapts based on random mutations and natural selection in light of its environment. Evolution is not at all (rep[eat AT ALL) presicposed in favor of intelligence. Evolution does not have "bidpedialism" as a "goal."

    In the grand game of live all that matters is survival. In most cases, the mutants simply die out. Every so often, the mutation is beneficial from a survivability standpoint and is passed forward into some offshoot liove from the orginal creature. Some of those fishes turned into different types of fish and their lines continue to be fish of various sorts to this day. In their case evolutionary pressures are adapting them to conditions oin the modern oceans.

    Some other line led to the first tetrapods. Hundreds of millions of years, and many many species later and some of the tertrapods evolved into humans, bipedal and intelligent. In 100 million years nature may well prove that this "bipedal and intelligent" thing didn't work and we may well either be extentinct as a line, or have evolved back into four legged dumb animals. You never know.

    I've read enough of your posts to know that you are not as stupid as you are pretending to be in this thread.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously we cannot recreate the exact circumstances surrounding hundreds of millions of years of evolution, but we can provide proof of principle. It's frankly unnecessary to do what you are asking.
     
  11. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    Ever heard of the dodo OIM?
     
  12. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    Yet more feigned dullardry. Obviously the odds of "humans" evolving from Haikyichthys under the system of random mutation and natural selection are incredibly remote. That said, any particularly configuration taht evolution led to would be incredibly unlikely a priori. It is not logical to use that fact, ex ante, as a "disproof" of the occurrence though.

    Think of it this way: Imagine a lottery where 7 numbers ranging from 1 to 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 are selected at random (with replacement). Imagine that the lottery numbers were:

    7, 14, 14, 27, 42, 47 and 8,657,875,109,565,001,327,546,114

    Your argument is akin to saying, "There was no lottery. Show me the computer program that could prove that selecting seven numbers from a bin of containing the numbers 1 to 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 would give me that result." The odds of getting that selection of numbers (or any particular selection) are very small a priori but the odds of getting *some* selection are 100%.
     
  13. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    You no longer live under water, so you've made adaptations to suit your life as a bipedal land fish. Some sacrifices were made to allow for these adaptations, including the loss of a lot of your old under water-specific features like fins, gills/the ability to breathe under water, etc.
    You stopped needing these things when you stopped living underwater, the demands keeping them in place were neglected and so they retarded in development and were replaced with things that would help you be better at living on land. Feet, hands, skin, lungs, etc.

    Ofcourse, none of this is how it happened, "you" didn't do anything and you weren't ever a fish in your life, you're forcing us to speak to you like you're a baby, but if it helps...
     
  14. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    So how come fish didn't stop needing any of those things?
     
  15. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    Because they still live in water?
     
  16. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    I thought they evolved to leave it?
     
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    Just kidding.

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    When I was a kid, I thought Denizen the fishboy was a real character *sigh*
     
  18. skaught The field its covered in blood Valued Senior Member

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    My god... Please tell me this isn't real.
     
  19. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Some fish species did. Other fish species are still fish. :shh:
     
  20. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Why did some fish evolve while others didn't?
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Some species of fish had potential to live on land, maybe they were adapted to shallow water, like our mudskippers.
     
  22. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    You're saying some fish didn't evolve. But I thought you were arguing for evolution not against it.
     
  23. amethyst08 Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps they face different type of environments, e.g food resources.
     

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