Israel's obsession with Muslims

I have always wondered why Israelis are so obsessed in their hatred with any Muslim country on this planet, and attempt to push towards the destabilization, destruction, and economic ruin of any Muslim countries.

From my experience, given the choice between a Muslim majority country and a country of any other faith, Israelis will always side against the Muslims? What I want to know is, why is this? There must be something to deeper than this which guides Israeli perceptions.

I was reminded by this, when Cheski Chips wrote as his user title 'Pakistan out of Kashmir.' What I want to know is why does an Israeli support oppression of Kashmiri Muslims by an occupying force which has murdered thousands of innocent men and raped thousands of innocent women.

The Kashmiris are legitimately opposed to the destruction of their homeland, which is quite obvious when witnessing the increasingly large protests in Srinagar and surrounding areas during the past few months.

It is up to Kashmiris to decide which nation they should be part of, a position which Pakistan supports by adamantly supporting a UN plebiscite in the area. India does not want this plebiscite, because they know the Kashmiris will vote for union with Pakistan. One proof of this is the largest group Muslim South Asians in the UK are Kashmiris, who identify themselves as Pakistanis and are an integral part of the Pakistani community there. The most representative and respected organization in Kashmir, the All Hurriyat Conference, supports union with Pakistan according to the wills of the Kashmiri people.

My question is, why would Israel advocate against a Muslim country, which historically, has no qualm with Israel, in a matter which does not concern Israel, that of the occupation of Muslim Kashmiri land by the Indian army?

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PS. I may not respond, but you have plenty of people on this forum to debate, please answer my questions: Cheski Chips.

If others which to offer intelligent discussion about this topic, feel free.

 

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I am going to be blunt; I hope I don't get banned. Simply I am attempting to respond to the question honestly exactly why I dislike Muslims.

I never hated Muslims before I lived near a Mosque. I still don't hate Muslims from Saudi Arabia; but Muslims from every other country I do hate.
I think they're uneducated, I think they stole every piece of their conscripted religion from mine while simultaneously insulting my prophets with the most inane arguments I have ever heard.
I hate how they speak the semitic language, it sounds like a bunch of vulgar disgusting Hebrew to me.
Muslims are my enemy.
I hate how they shroud themselves in cloth to look righteous like Ishmael.
I hate the logic they use.
They never have studied law, but they think they know G*d's law...it's insane.
I think they are vulgar, and most often commit as much perversion as you can imagine...yet they hide it.
The Dome of the Rock is a disgusting pile of rubble to me, and I want it back in Mecca.
I hate their view of "Human Rights" and how they behave in the "Human Rights Council"
I hate their sharia law.
I hate there Halal Meat, which was conceptually STOLEN from Judaism.
I hate how they dress.
I hate how they smell.
To many they've become animals with the way they treat me, look at me, and talk to me. So like animals I will consider them.

Muslims all around the world are my enemy; they treat me and my fellows cruelly daily.

Note to Mod's; if you think my post was inappropriate can you just delete it and not ban me? I was genuinely trying to answer the question.

 

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In 1974, the Jewish Chautauqua Society aired a TV Public Service Announcement that made a strong impression on me. I've often tried to find it again, to no avail. Your saddening post made me recall again what it had to say:

I strongly advise you to make some Muslim friends, and confront your most irrational fears of Muslims, before your hatred devours you, CC.

 

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You don't really know me; your statement might be valid if I randomly made a thread with the content of my thread reply. Which I still wouldn't have written if I wasn't specifically addressed.

I've had Muslims roommates before, I only like hanging around Jews.

 

That might not be bad advise, Hype, because at the rate y'all liberal doo-gooders are going, the Muslims will probably take over the world in a fairly short time. The Muslims, unlike you and your liberal buddies, know how to kill people and cause mass destruction ...while you liberal doo-gooders only want to spew forth your idiotic ideals.

Power comes from the muzzle of a gun! Which you and those like you have forgotten.

Baron Max

 

I would advise all liberals to make friends with Muslims, as it is the Liberal Life Style that the Muslims detest the most, and in the end it still will not do the liberals one bit of Good, when the Sword of Sharia Justice is Supreme, it will be dulled on the Liberals Necks.

 

How true.

 

Oh come on,
1) you could just as easily argue Xianity was stolen from Judaism.
2) Judaism is stolen from an earlier religion.

Second of all, Islam is not "taking over the world". Most people do not become Muslims, most people believe whatever their parents told them to believe. Of the people that do convert, more people convert to Bahia or Scientology that to Islam. So you needn't worry.

What we need to do is to get off oil and get the hell out of the ME. Done and Done.


Anyway, now with the USA tanking and the Chinese rising, let's see how the Red Dragon deals with the ME. That'll be interesting. Perhaps the Chinese know something we don't? SAM's always going on about "Asian" mentality versus our brutish vaulgur "colonial" Westerner way of thinking - well lucky her, she gets her wish

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1 million dead in sudan, 8000 murdered in somalia in 18 months, 3000 murdered in thailand in 3 years, its kinda hard to make friends with muslims who think they are the chosen people, & the rest of the world are infidels, they may pretend to be your friend but they see you as a infidel all the same, the muslim council of britain often pretends to be good, but then often has hamas leaders speaking at its conventions.

The death toll this religon is leaving behind, is it worth it?
There are 0ver 30 or 40 countries at war with islamic miltants, not buddists, not jews, not catholics, the problem is with in islam, not other religons, the problem is the word jihaad, & the muslim idea that it resolves disputes, it does not it cause hatred.

 

You've got it backwards, ya akhi. It is Muslims who are preoccupied with destroying the "Zionist enemy" even though that enemy lives thousands of miles away and did nothing to Muslims around the world. It is the mosques where you hear about the "brothers of apes and pigs", the "killers of prophets", etc. etc.

Israelis just want to be left alone and make friends with Arab and Muslim countries.

You are probably a lost cause already, as you've been brainwashed all your life about the "apes and pigs", as per your OP, but new generations may be wiser. Now go fuck yourself.

 

One more thing -- I'm on the left of Cheksi and I do appreciate Arab and Muslim culture, but I look how they treat each other and shudder. If they had the capability they would do to us (Jews and westerners) what they do to each other daily.

Having said that, if they put aside their primitive and barbaric hatred of Jews and Israel aside, I would have no qualms about being friends with them.

Actually, I'm friends with a few Muslims with whom I don't discuss politics, but I know of theirs and it ain't pretty. But we're still capable of being friends. They probably think the same of me -- that I have "crazy zionist" political opinions, yet they are ok with being friends with me. I'm comfortable with that. If that happened on a global scale then we would have more peace and understanding.

 

I'm not even going to respond to these idiotic statements.

By the way, I don't know why you say 'Ya Akhi', I'm not Arab. Most Muslims aren't.

Yes, great job making friends with your present foreign policy in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan.

I have never heard this in my life, except from Fox News and Israeli websites. Jews are human beings like anyone else. Islam does not have a racial hierarchy of any kind. No chosen people either.

It seems like you didn't even read my OP.

READERS: You should be able to judge those posters who are filled with hatred merely by the content of their posts. No matter how much we may try to correct these people's views about Islam and Muslims, they are too filled with hate to see their fellow human beings as people. Those of you who have espoused hatred in this thread SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

 

I think you hit the nail right on the head there vincent28uk.
However, I think it's primarily an issue of education, or the lack thereof.

 

Israelis lie because they are afraid. And they are afraid because of their lies. Its a vicious circle.

 

That's not the question I asked. I asked why Cheski and other Israelis support, in any conflict, Non-Muslims over Muslims. It does not necessarily have to be that Muslims in, for example Pakistan, have to be militarily and politically opposed to Israel. Generally, as in the case with Pakistan (and other Muslim nations in Asia), Israelis has actively sought to marginalize and use their influence in US politics to destabilize these countries. This in turn leads to these nations becoming anti-Israel, more than the Palestinian conflict ever would.

The rest of your response is OFF TOPIC

 

Lying and Paranoia seems to be a national pastime.

 

You'll never hear an Israeli say that in 1919, they wanted a complete dispossession of Palestinians. No, you'll only hear about how serendipitously, unarmed Palestinians were fighting those Jewish terrorist groups that were blowing up hotels and buses. And how the Israelis defended themselves by bodily picking them up and putting them in refugee camps. When they were not throwing bombs in their homes in the night [when the family would be home, asleep; or gangraping their girls or picking up and taking them to be shot down. Nor will you hear how Israelis were shooting dead anyone who tried to come back home. Nope, thats all buried under lies of how great victims they are. Why, they are practically forced to occupy the people who live there and move from Europe and US to live as settlers on Palestinian land almost as a favor to the Palestinians.

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IIRC Israel supported the Afghan resistance to the Soviets. Also, unless my memory plays tricks, Israel supported Indonesia against East Timor.

Otherwise, Fraggle has laid out the general impression I have.

And until you realize that after Bangladesh, the Partition from India, and various less dramatic indications of the nature of Pakistan's governance, no one should be viewing the Kashmir struggles as some kind of good vs evil battle with India on the side of evil, I don't think any explanation of non-Muslim people's reluctance to back Muslim military force will make sense to you.

There aren't many places in the world where there is a violent conflict and the Muslim side is reasonable and good, overall, from any non-Muslim perspective.

 

It is so obvious that you are a hater, and you are so full with hate that you didn't even look at the posters original message. You just started ranting and venting out your hate. How typical of haters. Always miss the message, always.

LOL... You are such a liar.. making up everything from your bs about living close to a mosque to the way they look at you.. you are so full of shit. I have lived amoing jewish and muslims from all over the world and in a very close community and I have never ever seen any muslim giving jews a look or heard them talking dirty or talking down on them, neither I have seen jewish people did the same. Seems like you hate muslims just because you are a racist hate monger.

Also, another lie and BS by you is that " you don't like them because the way they treate you and your people" Another Bull Shit lie... you don't know how Muslims in different countries would or have treated your people. Atleast you cannot speak of me or hundreds of people that I have known.. they never hated any jewish people. You fit the typical idiot stereo type of Racists. You have zero knowledge about your own surroundings. I can only hope that people like you would stop hating because you are a disgrace in the name of Judiasim. You are giving a bad name to Jewish people.


The question asked by original poster is still un answered. I wonder if any one got guts to answer it? or are we still gonna hear the typical hate mongers venting and vomiting here without any logic?