I'm sure if they met a religious fanatic who took away their identity, gave them a new name, convinced to live for Xenu and never to speak the own God damn language and never see their parents - yeah, I'd all that brainwashed... oh, but for you that's pious I forgot. nope
If they wanted to, can you give me any reason why they shouldn't? You sound like an old fashioned parent. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
oh gee a women who will never speak to own kids in her own language because her psycho husband doesn't want her too. What a novel concept. Oh gee a women who will never speak to her parents again. What a novel concept. Oh gee a women who now has a new Arabic name and sole existence is to live for Allah the Sky Daddy. How novel. Islam was the worst thing that happened to this woman and her family, her Imam husband is no better than a pimp. You'd see that, but much like Scientologist, you've drank the cool-aid. Anyone who suddenly starts wearing a spaceship hat for worry of Xenu is called brainwashed, oh, I mean pious for you.
Look SAM, go wear a burka and we'll call it a day. The Japanese girl wears a burka and lives for allah because she's brainwashed. I'm sure you'd blame the school girls who burned to death for not being covered if they were around to blame.
This from the man who thinks a woman that takes off her clothes to pole dance is a prostitute. A woman has a right to decide to wear a veil if she wants to. Whether its me or someone else. If she doesn't want to wear it, she has that right too, just like homosexuals have a right to be elected President of the United States. But unlike the latter, the former requires a Saudi woman to campaign for a change in social law.
S.A.M., please, this is a girl who was normal, met a psycho Imam and was brainwashed into Islam. Now she wears a tent, changed her name to an Arabic one, stopped all contact with her friends and family and is not allowed to speak Japanese to her own children. That's called BRAINWASHED sam. Geesh, what's so hard to get? This is the way it is with explaining brainwashing to the brainwashed. One of the first thing that cult leaders do to brainwash their sheep is to change their name. Notice that this happens in Islam - often Muslim converts are encouraged to take an Arabic name. Pure brainwashing. Notice what happens when a person is forced to give up their own language. Again, pure brainwashing tactics. Brainwashed people are always kept away from their families. OH, they think they are doing it willingly, but usually at this stage they are so deeply brainwashed they wouldn't know their head from their arse. anyway... as I said before, tell Xenu, Zenu, MeMu, Allah, Palla, Balla, whoever we all said hello...
So if a Saudi girl meets a Western man, dumps her garb and wears Western clothing, she is brainwashed? Yeah right! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! A change in name is [surprise!!!] what most women do after marriage. How do you know she stopped contact with her family and not vice versa? As for not being allowed to speak Japanese to her kids, how do you know? So what do they say about your teeth? Dracula lives?
As S.A.M. correctly (for once) observes, there is no Muslim dress code. The irony is that the mummification costume was actually started by nuns. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I never made such an assumption, don't confuse my dreams with what I think humanity wants, I also dream of the dead humans are extinct, do I think mankind wants that? You have not proven that Saudi dress code is not sexist, you have only made attacks against me.
What do you think happens to men who are not dressed properly in Saudi Arabia? The system applies equally to both, but Israelis are not interested in translating equally. Same as a streaking woman is treated like a streaking man in the US. Or not? Here is an interesting vignette from a modern Saudi woman: http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=114363&d=16&m=9&y=2008 This is what a Saudi woman is.
Thats not what she said, she said she wants the scholars to allow them to be more expressive in their dress, she still said "conservative". You seem obsessed on the showing your face category. I have met many women, not only in Saudi Arabia but also in India who do not want to show their faces. Here is another article by the same author: http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=52784&d=12&m=10&y=2004 You can read the entire article and tell me what is strikingly absent
If they don't want to show there faces that their decision, I'm saying it wrong to force it on others, they should have the right to decide, what about all the saudi women that do want to show their faces, are they all nudist and streakers? Should their calls for women rights be dropped because they don't want to conform to "conservatives" dress code?
They have to do what you have to do in order to roam naked and smoke pot. Wait for social change. Or campaign for it. Until the majority agrees, thats not likely to happen. But if you actually speak to Saudi women, you'd be surprised how few have that on their list, and how far down the list it is.
Yeah getting the right to drive and work and etc are surely bigger goals! And lest not forget how many of them are brainwash into thinking their state of subjugation is ok.
Since you don't even know any Saudi women, I'd say you're the one who is brainwashed. FYI, just go and say that to a Saudi woman and then run for cover!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
************* M*W: Reminds me of those girls and women in the FLDS in their long pastel prairie dresses and their heavy long Johns. Another case of those who have drank the Kool-Aid of oppression.
************* M*W: Your post reminded me of that long black dress with the head covering that I think S.A.M. posted. I always thought they looked like nuns but they were, I assume, Muslims. I always thought that's why the nuns accepted that as a required dress.
The origin of the face veil was in Byzantine, it was considered a mark of social status. Prostitutes and cleaning women were forbidden to wear it. I think by 1423, when Byzantine fell to the Muslims, the veil had been adopted by much of the upper class Islamic world as a sign of status [who wants to have his wife, sister or mother considered as a prostitute or cleaning woman?] It is unknown in the Arabs before that time. In the Saudis, they still have this notion, if you expose your face, you are "lower" class
