Split: RSPCA and animal activism

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  1. MetaKron

    MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Australia should take its conservationists and animal rights activists out and shoot them all dead.
     
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  3. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    So, you're anti-conservation and anti-animal rights then, I take it, MetaKron?

    Why should anybody care what you think, though?
     
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    So you are for animal rights, James? That's a good reason for me never to speak to you again, if you are.

    Sorry. What I should have said is that the conservationists and the animal rights activists are screwing Australians around, just like they're screwing everyone they can gain influence over. The animals and humans are better off without them.
     
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    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    actually the RSPCA do a fantastic job concidering they are not a goverment organisation but rather a volenteer one who not only has enforcement powers under the protection of animals acts but also have to go in with the star group officers and the ambulance SOT's when the police are excuting high risk warrents in order to subdue the guard dogs.

    They contribute more to our sociaty on a daily basis than you ever will MetaKron
     
    Asguard, Oct 4, 2008
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  8. Fraggle Rocker

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    That's cool. Here, the motherfucking arrogant, incompetent, swaggering government thugs just shoot the dogs. They recently busted into the house of the mayor of Berwyn Heights and murdered his dogs, one of which was running away and was shot in the back. It turned out to be a bogus drug bust. The dealers had a shipment delivered to his address, knowing he wouldn't be home and it would be left on his porch, and the recipient was hanging out on the street waiting to see the FedEx truck leave. But the pigs had intercepted the shipment at the other end and were staking out the house so the dealer had to leave the box and split. When the mayor's family got home the goons impersonated a FedEx driver, knocked on the door, and asked his mother to take the package inside. Once she did that they had "probable cause" to break in and arrest everybody and shoot the dogs right in front of them.

    And people wonder why we need guns in America. To protect ourselves from the scum of the earth: American cops and other civil "servants," employees of an unaccountable, uncaring government.
    Could you guys please dial it down? Personal insults are a violation of the forum rules. Azzy, you're a fucking Moderator. Can't you please behave like one and not participate in a flame war?
     
    Fraggle Rocker, Oct 5, 2008
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  9. MetaKron

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    RSPCA and animal activism

    Most of the RSPCA should be in jail.

    They contribute more pain to society on a daily basis than I ever will. More than I am willing to.
     
    MetaKron, Oct 5, 2008
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  10. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    You sound like you have an irrational hatred.

    How so? Explain.

    Why?

    How so? Explain.
     
    James R, Oct 7, 2008
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  11. MetaKron

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  12. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    MetaKron,
    why exactly would they lie to police?
    the only time they ever deal with the police is when its for there own protection
    THEY are the ones with the enforcement powers.
     
    Asguard, Oct 7, 2008
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  13. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    would you like to back that statement up?
    where have they lied?
    what about?
    where is the judement which shows the his\her displeasure with there actions?

    or is this just another one of your bigoted campaines like your "i should be able to punch a women in the face" campaine?
     
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  14. MetaKron

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    This alone is adequate cause for mass jailings of RSPCA "officials."

    Shooting them may also be legally justified where there are laws like "castle doctrine" laws and other laws that allow people to protect themselves from home invaders and terrorists.
     
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  15. MetaKron

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    This is exactly what the American SPCAs do. I wish that someone would use a scattergun on them. That is, when legal under the "castle doctrine."
     
    MetaKron, Oct 7, 2008
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  16. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    correct, but then so are the CFS, SES, and one arm of SAAS amongst other things

    WRONG

    WRONG

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_act/poctaa1985360/s3.html

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_act/poctaa1985360/s28.html

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    WRONG

    WRONG

    WRONG


    WRONG

    WRONG

    Try again
     
    Asguard, Oct 7, 2008
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  17. MetaKron

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    Then they probably really should be taken out and shot. No such charity should be allowed any law enforcement powers. They are not a charity anymore if they have those powers. There is too much wrong with them to allow their organization to continue to exist.
     
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    Also, I believe that in all that you quoted, they meant duly appointed officers of the law, not the "Inspectorate" that the RSPCA routinely passes off as law enforcement officers.

    Do you support all that crap?
     
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  19. MetaKron

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    Hey asshat:

    PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS ACT 1985 - SECT 28

    28—Inspectors

    (1) The Minister may, by notice in the Gazette, appoint a person nominated by the Society to be an inspector for the purposes of this Act.

    (2) The Minister must provide each inspector appointed under this section with a certificate of identification in a form approved by the Minister.

    (2a) On ceasing to be an inspector, the former inspector must surrender the certificate to the Minister.

    Maximum penalty: $2 500.

    (3) An inspector must produce the certificate (or, in the case of a member of the police force not in uniform, his or her warrant card) at the request of any person in relation to whom the inspector is exercising powers or functions under this Act.
     
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  20. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    "(1) The Minister may, by notice in the Gazette, appoint a person nominated by the Society to be an inspector for the purposes of this Act. "
     
    Asguard, Oct 8, 2008
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  21. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    so?

    Yes the cops can do the job too, i knew that but in reality, especially for commertial enforcement its the RSPCA inspectors who do it
     
    Asguard, Oct 8, 2008
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  22. MetaKron

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    Which requires that the appointee be appointed by the "Minister" and not by the RSPCA.
     
    MetaKron, Oct 8, 2008
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  23. MetaKron

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    They should be gunned down for attempting to do it if they do not have proper law enforcement credentials. This is not just because of the castle doctrine but also because they usurp the role of the law enforcement officer.
     
    MetaKron, Oct 8, 2008
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