Can Gravitational Bodies Grow?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by OilIsMastery, Sep 30, 2008.

  1. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Just to make what this means clear.

    In Mongolia, there are sections of Oceanic crust that were formed in a body of water (the Ophiolite sequences include pillow basalts) at a mid ocean spreading ridge.

    These segments of Oceanic Crust are three times older then OIM's 'expanding earth' allows them to be.

    Therefore. OIM looses.
    Game over.
    (JamesR can lock/close the thread)
     
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  3. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    "Ophiolitic rocks with a zircon age of 1020 Ma occur in the Dunzhugur complex of East Sayan, Siberia, and are part of a Neoproterozoic to early Palaeozoic segment of the Central Asian fold belt." - E. V. Khaina, E. V. Bibikovab, A. Kröner, D. Z. Zhuravlevd, E. V. Sklyarove, A. A. Fedotovaa and I. R. Kravchenko-Berezhnoy -2001

    Oh looky, Billion year old Oceanic Crust in Siberia.
    OIM looses again.
     
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  5. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Would you look at that...

    " Results indicate that ophiolitic complexes older than 1.0 Ga mostly lack mantle tectonites below the magmatic rocks. Geochemically, these pre-Rodinian ophiolites display a mix of supra-subduction zone (SSZ), mid-oceanic-ridge, and oceanic- island compositions, with higher proportions of komatiite in complexes older than 1.6 Ga. Magmatic ages of identified and inferred complexes tend to cluster at times of 1.0–1.5 Ga, 1.8–2.3 Ga, ca. 2.5–2.7 Ga, and ca. 3.4 Ga." -Eldridge M. Moores, 2002.

    So, we have records of Ophiolite complexes as old as 3.4 Ga.
    15 times older then OIM's expanding earth allows for.

    OIM looses again.
     
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  8. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    The last time I checked Siberia is NOT included as being part of the oceanic lithosphere. Thank you for providing yet more evidence supporting my case.

    See Russia: http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/ocean_...ages/whole_world/2008_age_of_oceans_p1024.jpg
     
  9. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Are you contradicting your earlier arguments?
    Are you arguing that Ophiolites don't form as a result spreading at mid ocean ridges?
    Are you saying that MArine fossils found in the Himalayas and the European Alps aren't actually marine fossils?

    You're being ridiculous, and dishonest.
    You're contradicting yourself again.

    The list of reasons goes on.

    Are you suggesting that Mongolia has always been landlocked?
    Seesh. Get real.

    You're arguing for a static earth scenario.
     
  10. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Substitute Mongolia for Siberia.
     
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  12. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    And someone who knows next to nothing about geology, will find that both areas were part of the oceanic lithosphere, hundreds of My ago.
    It explains the marine fossils, and the basalts you can find there, like today.

    What's your mythology have to say about bivalve fossils that you can find inland?
    Does it have a suggestion about why they're found to be so old, when they're dated?

    Your utterly ludicrous, naive "theory" doesn't explain a whole lot of stuff at all, does it?
     
  13. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Yup they sure were. But they aren't now. How do you explain that if they are being subducted?

    Yup they sure were. But they aren't now. How do you explain that if they are being subducted and magically transformed into oil?
     
  14. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    So, you're prepared to admit there are inland areas of continents, that used to be seafloor?
    No, obviously not. They aren't seafloor any more, because they're land now. They've been uplifted 'somehow' and now they're above current sea-level. Did you notice that, did you?
    How do you get to the idea they're being subducted? They're now part of a continental craton. Continents are not subducted, they aren't heavy enough, you ignorant twat.
    Your naivete isn't at all surprising; obviously you haven't learned much about the subject.

    How about those marine fossils a few km up in the Himalayas? Are you going to claim the Tibetan plateau is supposed to be subducting?
     
  15. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Yes of course. That's where the fossils are found.

    It's called oceanic seafloor spreading.

    Good question.

    I agree 100%. Excellent point.

    Only a moron would believe that the Tibetan plateau (or anywhere else on earth for that matter) is subducting....:crazy:
     
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    Hang on, you're saying the oceanic basalts in the middle of Mongolia got there from seafloor spreading?

    This spreading process pushes plates apart? There's no pull from anywhere to drive the mid-ocean spreading?
     
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    Mongolia isn't oceanic.

    No. There are no plates. The spreading creates new crust out of the rift. Noone disputes this on either side of the debate.

    Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH_5SFHXSzo

    Pull?
     
  18. amark317 game developer-in-training Registered Senior Member

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    YES!! YOUR MOM!!!!XD
    but seriously I have no idea

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  19. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Not the current Oceanic lithosphere, no, because the regions have been incorporated as parts of continental sequences.

    Once again.

    Are you denying that Ophiolites are created at Mid ocean spreading centers?
    Are you denying that there are numerous examples of Oceanic crust, substantially older then any current oceanic crust, inorporated in continental crust?
    Are you denying the presence of deep ocean sequences in land locked areas?
     
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    It's called an accretionary wedge.
    It's called a suture zone.

    You're being dishonest (again) and raising a strawman argument (again).
     
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    Speaking of crazy (and contradicting ones self).
     
  22. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    LOL. You really have made no attempt to understand the theory.
     
  23. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Yeah I have.

    it's based on the observation that the oldest active oceanic crust is about 200Ma.

    it ignores the fact that there exists Oceanic crust sequences, now incorporated into continental masses (by obduction) that were laid down by spreading ridges, in an ocean that are more than 3.4 Ga old.

    You haven't made any attempt to understand the objections.

    For example, as I have already asked.

    If Mongolia isn't oceanic, then how does it contain sequences that you have explicitly aknowledged, originate from oceanic sea floor spreading?
     

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