9/11 Conspiracy Thread (There can be only one!)

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by Stryder, Aug 3, 2007.

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  1. shaman_ Registered Senior Member

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    Not everyone agrees with Manning’s criticism.
    http://www.911myths.com/html/fire_engineering_letter.html


    There may have been criticisms of the investigation but the steel was investigated. It wasn’t spirited away and it wasn’t hidden. Experts looked at it and found nothing suspicious.

    Who is misrepresenting the physics?

    http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

    At the bottom.

    So I went to the website of Corus Construction Co, and found a section in their Research area that said this about the difference in temperatures between steel and atmosphere:

    "With regard to steel temperatures, these depend upon the size of the member but for typical unprotected beams and columns these would lag behind the compartment temperatures by around 100°C to 200°C."

    So the tests that the conspiracy theorist cited only had atmospheric temperatures ranging around 800-900 degrees, while the Popular Mechanics article (and NIST report) mentions that pockets of the World Trade Center reached 1800 degrees. This would put the steel temperature in those locations at around 1600-1700 degrees, which is far above the 1100 degree mark that steel loses 50% of its structural integrity.

    I just thought it was a pretty striking example of dishonesty….”


    Your sources are always poorly researched, dishonest or both.

    What? Bad science aside, you posted a link to a story of a bridge that collapsed after a gas tanker crashed.

    ABOLHASSAN ASTANEH, University of California, Berkeley " In both of them, basically, the fire was the reason why steel got soft and weak and collapsed.”

    Take your blinkers off and think about what you are saying Scott. If the steel could be softened there and the Madrid Tower then surely it's possible that it could be softened by the fires on 9/11.


    Typical conspiracy theorist. When presented with evidence from an expert you instantly claim that he was paid off. If you do some searching on Abolhassan Astaneh you will see that he even had of criticisms of the investigation, although they were minor. He is far more qualified than Jones to speak on these matters and he found no evidence for explosives.
     
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  3. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    I see the spooks are still at it. Losers.
     
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  5. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    I think the real losers are the truthers. Not only have they failed to convince historians, demolition experts, civil engineers etc. but their membership is in sharp decline.

    You know how many truthers turned out at their most important rally of the year? 150.

    As for being a spook... I really wish I was. Being a secret agent sounds a little more glamorous than my day job.
     
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  7. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Keep giving them hell Scott. Make these Spooks earn their paycheck.

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  8. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    That is enough to prove that you are a stupid moron.
     
  9. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Provide the video or STFU, you're now on the Clock. You can't because it doesn't it exist. That's all the proof I need.
     
  10. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    You'd make a bad detective if you had to see pictures of a crime taking place in order to solve it.
     
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    It's a total waste debating him, I see It didn't take them long to realize what a dishonest debater that guy really is. The best thing to do is ignore him. He's not here to have an honest discussion, he's only here to push the Governments unprovavble version of the facts.. We're having a great debate on Abovetopsecret.com, and they don't allow name calling there, a great place for adults to have a discussion.
     
  12. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    I'm a dishonest debater? LOL! You're the one that shows pictures of planes that have crashed at low speed and think it's valid to compare it to a plane that has nose dived into the ground approaching the speed of sound.

    I know you are reading everything I'm saying even though you have me on "ignore".
     
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    I'd sure like to see evidence for this. So far your claims of everybody disagreeing with you being government agents is making you look downright silly.
     
  15. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Can you share with me what evidence you have that proves that Khalid SHeik Muhammad was responsible for 911 and not Bin Laden. It's been going on 3 weeks now. And you still haven't showed me any evidence that links KSM to 911. Nor has the F.B.I charged him with the crime.
     
  16. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Can you please share with us the Video of the Plane hitting the Pentagon? You didn't see it, so how can you push a theory that you have no concrete proof of.
     
  17. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, but this isn't communist China. Stryder tried to silence any dicussion about this topic by moving it to this forum. But it completely backfired, and now he's totally frustrated that he can't surpress others from having an open and civil discussion. The only ones who're calling other deragatory names are the pro-goverment posters.
     
  18. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    African oil at issue

    Daily oil production by the Gulf of Guinea states—Nigeria, Congo, Gabon, Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea—is over 4.5 million barrels. The total is more than Iran, Saudi Arabia or Venezuela produces individually.

    http://www.pslweb.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5687&news_iv_ctrl=0
     
  19. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Do you belive that KSM is responsible for 911 and no OBL? I would like to see what evidence you reviewed that led you to that conclusion.
     
  20. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Also, here' another way to point out the spooks on this forum.

    1) 90% of their time is spent on debating people who they claim are crazy.

    2) They always put in their profiles that they're from the UK or Australia, or some other shithole of a continent to masquerade thier true identities.
     
  21. shaman_ Registered Senior Member

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    I have another identity?

    Cool

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  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    These kind of comments make me laugh out loud. "You're too good, you know the real answers to all my stupid points. You must be...a government agent!" What an idiot.

    Bitch, it's the parking cam vid. The same fucking video that the Troofers used to like to point to and say "that couldn't be a plane!" which clearly fucking is. I repeat: what an idiot. "It's a missile!" Yeah, a two-hundred foot missile. Sure. Mocked up to look like an airplane? Idiot.

    Provide the evidence or STFU.

    You. Are. An. Idiot.

    I'm from the UK and Canada, living in the States. Oh, and by the way: don't call the UK a shithole, you useless little fuck. It's the funniest fucking thing when you yell "You're not from those places!" and then insult those places to piss us off. STFU, little boy.

    Done.
     
  23. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You are a gov'mint agent. Ganymede says so!
     
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