McCain/Obama Debate.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ganymede, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/24/mccains-call-to-cancel-debate-met-with-resistance/

    What a fucking pussy.
     
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  3. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Ganymede you know whats really funny. if this had happened here during an election campaine a) there would be no legislation anyway because the constitution doesnt alow parlament to sit after being desolved by the GG

    b) any executive decisions that needed to be made WOULD be bipardissan because by convention both labor and the libs have to agree on any action to be taken while the goverment is in care taker mode
     
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  5. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Labor and libs?
     
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  7. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    the two main parties.

    labor is closest to the democrats, the Libral party is closest to the republicans
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    The two main players in the Australian Government.
     
  9. kmguru Staff Member

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    The less McCain does debating, the better chance he has....in the mean time, if Biden bows out due to sickness....
     
  10. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    You guys still follow the elections? Now the new season started on TV, I tought you have something better to do...
     
  11. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Your liberals are like our republicans?

    Wow
     
  12. camilus the villain with x-ray glasses Registered Senior Member

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    this is awsome news. Thank god the economic crisis took over the campaign's attention and got everyone to stop talking about how hot palin is. The republitards were using that to get an edge in the campaign, and it worked, but now Obama is starting to gain momentum again because of this economic recession.
     
  13. allersby Banned Banned

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    Generally, I approve of McCain, but I think that trying to draw out from the debate is only sending a negative statement to the American people.
     
  14. allersby Banned Banned

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    ? Camilus, I'm afraid I take a bit of offense at that, and if anyone was debating whether Palin wears the right lipstick or not, it was MSNBC.
     
  15. camilus the villain with x-ray glasses Registered Senior Member

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    sorry, Im just in love with that word lol. But seriously, it wasnt just MSNBC, it was everyone. Palin was chosen for the sole purpose of distraction from the real issues, now that has changed, and Obama's mass times velocity is increasing again.

    EDIT: physics 101: p=mv (or momentum equals mass times velocity)
     
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  16. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Well said.
     
  17. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Obama show's his inability to gauge a the crisis, he is carrying on as usual, screw taking care of the problem that is going to hit every American Home.

    Obama is the wimp out, he passed on 10 ten hall debates with McCain.

    Obama knows he would be out classed with out His TelePrompTer, the man can't form a intelligent sentence with out one.

    JPost.com » Special Reports » America Decides 2008 » Article

    Aug 3, 2008 2:28 | Updated Aug 3, 2008 2:54
    Obama refuses McCain debate challenge

     
  18. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    McCain is a pussy, he cant' lose the election like a man, so he has to pull political stunts when he's behind by double digits. Not the type of pussy I want leading my Country.
     
  19. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    like this pussy?

     
  20. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Politics, not pussy

    I disagree. It's not so much a matter of being a pussy as it is of being a politician. McCain's prepared remarks for his announcement and request to delay the debate include the following:

    The problem with this is that any consensus achieved by Monday morning will bring the American people a bad deal. Now, perhaps it seems superstitious, but let us think about legislative history. Setting aside the usual partisan squabbling about the irony of the GOP racing for a state solution to a private-sector crisis, the fact that conservative economic policies led to this mess, and the like, I hope two words will sufficiently make the point. Well, three, but two of them are contracted: It's Congress.

    Seven hundred billion dollars. That's more than we've paid out so far for the war in Iraq. Do we really trust Congress to fashion a $700b solution to a crisis that has been years in the making in all of a few days?

    One of the curious things about the last several years is that politics has created stranger bedfellows than I would have thought. Back toward the beginning of the war, I was slightly unsettled to find myself agreeing with Pat Buchanan about the Bush administration's misdirected focus in the war on terror and international affairs. And earlier this week I found myself incredulously struggling to keep my eyes on the road instead of staring at my car radio as none other than Newt Gingrich made a certain amount of sense. Really, it was absolutely bizarre. Highlights of his brief interview on All Things Considered.

    The former Speaker of the House called the Paulson plan "un-Republican", and said, "I don't understand what they think they're doing." He criticized the Secretary of the Treasury, asserting that, "Paulson has shown almost no understanding of how a democracy operates", and, "Secretary Paulson has been consistently wrong for a year-and-a-half." He expressed little faith in Congress, while noting the problem of Sen. Dodd—allegedly the biggest recipient of money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—chairing the committee (Banking & Finance) that will oversee the Congressional consideration of the proposed bailout. Of Congress, though, he noted, "I think the purpose of the Congress, the purpose of the House and Senate, is to be a check and balance on the executive branch, not to automatically write blank checks."

    This is an especially important point. While there will be no bailout without Congress, rushing the plan through will only result in bad legislation. I mean, really, is there anyone who thinks Congress routinely writes good legislation? There is a reason that the Congress historically has lower approval ratings than their contemporaries in the White House.

    Perhaps the most frightening—and, unfortunately, confident—statement Mr. Gingrich made was when ATC's Melissa Block asked him, "What if you're wrong?" The former Speaker replied, "Well, if I'm wrong, then we're going to have a significant problem. And if I'm right, we're going to have a bigger problem."

    In the literary world, there is a saying about agents: Track record is everything.

    I can't help thinking that the same notion might apply here.

    Some might tell us that everything will come crashing down if the bailout isn't pushed through as fast and blindly as possible. The problem with this is that passing the bailout blindly and quickly won't prevent everything from crashing down, but rather delay the collapse long enough to put a few more dollars in the hands of rich executives at the expense of American taxpayers.

    Yes, there is some merit to the idea of putting the presidential campaigns on hold until Congress finds a way through this mess, just like it would have been nice to put aside the 527's and "who would you rather have a beer with" polls in 2004 until we figured out what to do about Iraq. But at some point, Americans are going to the polls, and I think there is a legitimate question whether Congress can actually come up with a good solution before then.

    Game on.
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    Notes:

    "McCain Calls for a Delay of Friday’s Presidential Debate". Washington Wire. September 24, 2008. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/24/mccain-calls-for-a-delay-of-fridays-presidential-debate/

    Block, Melissa. "Gingrich On Why Bailout Plan Is 'Just Wrong'". All Things Considered. September 22, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94900671
     
  21. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    Obama has already declined McCain request. another mistake by the youngster. now will have to see who wins the debate.
     
  22. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Ah, yes, behind by double digits, a cooked poll.

    Only 28% of the respondents were Republican,

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_campaign_disputes_post.html

    Obama up 2 in NBC/WSJ poll Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:08 PM by Mark Murray
    Filed Under: 2008, McCain, Obama, Polls
    From NBC's Mark Murray
    According to the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, Obama leads McCain, 48-46 percent, which is virtually unchanged from our poll released after the political conventions, when Obama was ahead by one point, 47-46 percent.

    This two-point Obama lead is a much different result than what we saw in another recent poll, which had the Illinois Democrat up by a larger margin. The McCain campaign argued today that Democratic respondents outweighed Republican ones by 16 points in that poll’s sample. By comparison, the NBC/Journal poll has Democrats leading in party identification by just seven points.

    Note: The 6:30 pm ET release for the poll was moved up due to today's news on the campaign trail. We'll have more on the poll shortly on MSNBC.com.

     
  23. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    McCain: ‘I Still Believe The Fundamentals Of The Economy Are Strong’»
    On her radio show today, conservative talker Laura Ingraham asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) what he believed should be done to address the struggling U.S. economy. Ingraham listed several economic indicators that have declined in recent years to make her point. McCain dismissed the premise of Ingraham’s question, saying, “I still believe the fundamentals of our economy are strong”:

    INGRAHAM: And now look: the dollar’s weak, we have serious competition from abroad, government is running a deficit. … What are the Republicans going to do if China ultimately overtakes us economically and does that matter?

    MCCAIN: I still believe the fundamentals of our economy are strong. We’ve got terribly big challenges now, whether it be housing or employment or so many of the other — health care. It’s very, very tough times. It’s very tough. But we’re still the most innovative, the most productive, the greatest exporter, the greatest importer.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/mccain-econ-strong/


    Once again he proves that he's out of touch with Reality.
     

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