Muslim Experience in America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by DiamondHearts, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The Surah Al - Kafiroon is addressed to unbelievers. ie the kaffirs.

    1 Say : O ye that reject Faith!
    2 I worship not that which ye worship,
    3 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    4 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
    5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    6 To you be your Way, and to me mine.

    Just because one does not worship God does not mean one is devoid of beliefs.

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    Look up the constitution of Medina. The first Ummah constituted the Muslims, the Jews and the pagans. It was the peace treaty designed to do away with internecine warfare and bring peace among the people.

     
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  3. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    they based it on the quran. whether its true or not, sometimes, it becomes irrelevant.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    True, what people say is often a reflection of their personal prejudices. They just like to justify it as belief.
     
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  7. Gustav Banned Banned

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    sam
    repeat after me

    islam is egalitarian within its faith
    ahl al-dhimma and those outside its purview are subject to discrimination
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Do you know what dhimmi means?

    A dhimmi ([ðimi]; Arabic: ذمي‎, collectively: أهل الذمة, ahl al-dhimma, the people of the dhimma or pact of protection, Ottoman Turkish zimmi) is a non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with sharia law. The term connotes an obligation of the state to protect the individual, including the individual's life, property, and freedom of religion and worship, and required loyalty to the empire,[1] and a poll tax known as the jizya.
     
  9. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    LOL, that's a contradictory statement.

    If you get to know me, I think you will change your mind about me.

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  10. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    im curious why there are those as apart of teaching islam teach hatred as well. and dont tell me they are a selective few.
     
  11. Gustav Banned Banned

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    sam and dh consider me ...naji
    unclean!

    /sob
     
  12. Gustav Banned Banned

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    ah
    as in .......... you are a pleasant cunt?
     
  13. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    Jizya is a tax mostly for the secular parts of state and for building or repairing temples for Non-Muslims. Non-Muslims are exempt from the Muslim tax, called Zakat-ul-Maal (which serves Islamic purposes [schools, mosques, etc] and as an alms for the poor).

    Non-Muslims are also allowed to settle their case in either a secular court or a court established by coreligionists. Certain things are lawful for Non-Muslims which are not lawful for Muslims such as pork, alcohol, religious holidays, pilgrimage to religious shrines, and others.
     
  14. Gustav Banned Banned

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    talking down to me?
    how brave

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    sci had done the dhimmi issue years before your ass got here so shut the fuck up
     
  15. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    Unless you are dripping in dog's saliva, that's not true.

    This is a popular myth, but Muslims view all human beings as naturally pure.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Argument by age? Duh!
     
  17. Gustav Banned Banned

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    alright
    your goddamn quote is contained in the link i fucking gave
    i read the goddamn entire fucking page

    what is the point of contention?:
    what am i misconstruing?
     
  18. Gustav Banned Banned

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    just a soundbite
    a decent starting point to ensnare the foolish

    there are clauses
    and
    i know you know
     
  19. DiamondHearts Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know the clauses, please inform me.
     
  20. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Diamond why are pakistani muslims such racist haters?

    christians attacked in pakistan

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    crime:
    Being christian in pakistan

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  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    No clauses, its called fitrah.

    In Islamic philosophy, Fitrah (فطرة) is the inherent disposition towards virtue in humanity, and what endows people with the ability to differentiate between right and wrong. According to the Quran, it is the original state in which humans are created by Allah (God).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitrah
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    same reason Americans are I suppose. No pics of Bagram to share unfortunately.

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  23. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    This is about civilians and how they treat minorities...muslims in the US have it a damn sight better than christians in Pakistan
     

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