Why not just execute people who receive life without parole?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Norsefire, Aug 15, 2008.

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What do you think is the most appropriate execution method?

  1. Hanging

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  2. Lethal Injection

    57.1%
  3. Electric chair

    7.1%
  4. Firing Squad

    14.3%
  5. Gas Chamber

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  6. Decapitation

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  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    What's the point of keeping them? They'd just waste time and resources. They're going to die anyway, by the barbaric act of incarceration and imprisonment and being stripped of their freedom and humanity, why not get it over with?

    This also ties in with my previous statement that life without parole and execution are both the same concept: permanent removal. So why not just get it over with?

    As an added poll, regardless of your views on capital punishment, which do you think is the most humane or most appropriate execution method?
     
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  3. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    because they can still be of use to sociaty even incaserated. They can study and be studied, they can produce things if they chose to, they can interact with people (including there family) and they can try to make amense with there victoms families if they chose.

    They can also be exhoronated if they were innocent and be recompenced for there wrongful conviction
     
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  5. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    They can be of use dead as well. They can be studied, and their organs can be useful.

    Sure. But I find a man wasting (and having to go through) decades of torment in prison innocently, just as bad if not worse than wrongful execution.
     
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  7. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    which is why they get million $ plus pay outs when they are releaced
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It's still not acceptable. Besides, there are also cases in which there is no doubt that the person who is convicted is the guilty one for sure. So why not execute them in this case?
     
  9. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    for the reasons i said above, it increases our level of knowlage so eventually life without parole will be unessary and we can treat these inderviduals
     
  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    And killing them has benefits:

    Their bodies can be studied and experimented on for scientific purposes

    Their organs can also be useful

    They can be used as compost or fertilizer, etc

    They don't waste food and water and space
     
  11. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    people who have been detained by the government

    should have as much right to assisted suicide as anyone, but to allow the government to not only ruin peoples lives by kidnapping them, but to go on and kill them, would be absolutely barbaric.
     
  12. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    You do know that we are talking about criminals right?

    So criminals who go to prison are being "kindapped"?

    What are you an anarchist?:bugeye:
     
  13. lepustimidus Banned Banned

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    Don't liberals claim that one of the points of prison is rehabilitation and re-integration into the community. How can that occur if the prisoner receives life without payrole?

    Like Norsefire says, wouldn't it just make more sense to just kill the prisoner?
     
  14. oiram Registered Senior Member

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  15. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    oiram what if the person was a tatttoo artist and was advertising his wears?

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  16. tim840 Registered Senior Member

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    "What do you think is the most appropriate execution method?"

    Electric chair or firing squad. They are quick and I believe fairly painless, if not totally. I would not go for lethal injection because I hate having needles stuck into me.
     
  17. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    how would you define a criminal? as i see it, anyone who takes away the freedom of any other person is a criminal, yet the overwhelming majority of these criminals are the government and the police.
     
  18. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I think they should.

    Hanging is the best method I think.
    It is humane, easy, quick, and costs little.
     
  19. Letticia Registered Senior Member

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    I already stated my view on death penalty here. But as far as execution methods are concerned, I think this country has a schizophrenic attitude. We want executions to be quick and painless, but we also want them to LOOK "civilized". These two requirements may not be incompatible, but they almost are. There are many ways to kill a person quickly and painlessly, most of them involve instant destruction of the brain. But they look gruesome and barbaric, and are too much for modern sensibilities. But with civilized-looking methods, such as lethal injection, you can never know for sure the convict is not suffering -- precisely because nothing drastic is happening.

    I voted "firing squad" as a reasonable compromise, but actually my preferred choice would be hypoxic air. Not poison gas, and not suffocation, but breathing pure nitrogen. Totally painless, you just pass out. Unfortunately, "gas chamber" of any kind has certain historical baggage...

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  20. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    The rapists, murderers, child molesters, etc
     
  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    If they turn out to be innocent later on, you can't undo an execution.

    You assume that life in prison must be a meaningless, worthless life. There's no proof of that. Dostoyevsky wrote Crime and Punishment in prison. Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for close to 30 years, and look what he went on to do.

    Obviously, if you're against capital punishment, you think all methods are barbaric.

    Prisoners are people, not things.

    You sound like a sociopath.

    Consider Dostoyevsky, for example. Or Mandela.
     
  22. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    No people who get life in prison should not be executed. People can still accomplish a great many things while in prison. I know that all of the chairs in the stadium at my old school were made by prisoners in a high security prison. A life in prison is not a meaningless life its just another way to live. And for truly terrible criminals who are in fact without a doubt guilty I think killing them is letting them off easily. I'm kind of sick for thinking this I know, but I think they should receive life in solitary confinement without parole. No entertainment just food, water, toilet, and bed. Nothing rots you like being left alone to your own thoughts. ie Cabin Fever. I think that is a much better punishment.
     
  23. SheWolf Registered Member

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    It's a very good point that keeping them alive leaves a chance for them to be proven innocent. Sure, some may be guilty without a doubt, but an uncertain rule of "well, execute them ONLY if they're guilty without a doubt" doesn't work, it's got to be either black of white. And in my opinion, it's more important to save an innocent life than it is to kill a guilty one.

    Also, what about death row? People can be on death row for 20 years; they're still using up resources, there's still the cost of execution etc.
     

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