This is a poll (which has a counterpart in this forum) that I think might shed at least some light of understanding between non-christians (including atheists) and christians.
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This poll is more stupid than the other one, it implies that non-believers pick and choose when they want to believe in Christianity and that they are always deep down Christians " Why do you sometimes believe in christianity?" When you are a non-believer you cease to believe in cults and myths. Also as a side note: Sentient means to feel Sapient means to know So this statement is incorrect "Because we are sentient and are able to love and judge to right from wrong." it should read because we are humans and are able to love, and know right from wrong.
Why would the world be so complex if there was a god? Why would we have such things as atoms, and things? Why would he bother to go into such detail?
This does not imply that non-believers pick and choose when they want to believe! It implies that sometimes we can all believe for at least a brief moment in these things. Or are you that black and white? Interesting if so. Sentient means to feel, so why would that statement be incorrect? That we feel doesn't rule out the other.
Yes, I saw that. Sorry. Polls can't be edited. I can only hope that a administrator does the cleanup...but why would they? It would surely be appreciated though.
I no longer sometimes believe in Christianity. I now consider the concept of Christianity beyond redemption. I couldn't answer the poll of course.
But we cant, there is either objective evidence for a god/gods or there is not, the latter is true. There is no in between, you cant suddenly pick and choose what you believe, when it suits you. Especially regarding objective evidence. Of course where else can you be, without evidence. Ah but it does, because you wouldn't be unable to judge. And please do think about it. It's feel, as in feel pain, touch. Not feel as in have empathy, you need knowledge to do that.
************* M*W: I'm a non-christian, because it became clear to me that no gods exist. The myth of christianity was copied from earlier myths, and people who believe that myths are real are delusional.
But that's not what I said, to believe in something, if even for a brief moment, doesn't mean that you choosed it or that you picked it. Sometimes we can just ponder about something and find that it can actually be true even if we reject it afterwards, that to me would equal a brief moment of belief. Just as believers can have brief moments of doubt. Belief doesn't require direct evidence, scientific facts do. And if there is direct evidence why wouldn't you believe it? Therefor it is pretty clear that belief in this sense doesn't correspond to direct evidence or there would be no need for a different word for it. Also there can be intuitive knowledge of these things that you may believe in (subjective knowledge). Sentience is to be able to perceive and feel subjectivly. Whether it is the feeling of touch or the feelings of emotions.
They don't have to be delusional though. What is it that say that these things cannot exist? And if they can, what is it that say that we can't believe in it? The only way for us to approach something that we don't know for a fact is to believe in it. So it's certainly not delusional or irrational if the goal is to approach it or gain understanding of it. Rather it is the only way. Then we can have all kind of moral judgements on those that spread their particular beliefs to others and in what manner they do it, but that is another thing.
Knowing for a fact and trying to convince others of "scientific" facts of their beliefs might not be logical, but it is logical to believe in it since there is no other way to gain full and subjective understanding of a concept that is unproved.
I never believe, but I go through the motions of believing for other people. My daughter says grace, I bow my head. A prayer is said at a wedding, I bow my head. My Mom wants me to sit in a pew with her, I do it.