SciContest! Why can't matter be made of photons?

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  1. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Ok, entry 3, steve100.

    An example of what steve100 is talking about is an electron and a positron. Is this correct?
     
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  3. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Entry 4:

    QuarkHead with a brilliantly crafted limerick.
     
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  5. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Just because matter can be made by colliding photons doesn't mean that matter is made out of photons.

    Electron and positron can annihilate into photons. This would have been all the "proof" you needed

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  7. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I'm holding SciForums to much less exacting standards. The goal here is to get people to think about this.
     
  8. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    BenTheMan; this looks like diode-man is coming to realize that the photon is the basic building block of all reality. Did I miss something ??
     
  9. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Entry 5 by DeepThought.

    Props for economy

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  10. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Hope you don't give in to easily then

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    It is a very fundamental question that deserves much consideration. Because, if it is true that all of the universe is a photon construct, Quantum Mechanics will have to evolve into more of a field theory. But I'm sure that is not impossible.
     
  11. Reiku Banned Banned

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    I'd disagree. So would the paper i provided.
     
  12. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Cyperium, Entry 6.

    I'm a bit confused. It seems to me that this doesn't prove that matter is NOT made of photons. It IS true that radiated energy comes in the form of photons. But I'm not sure if you've proved that photons can't also comprise matter.
     
  13. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Look Vern---the actual answer is that we don't know, but there's no evidence for it. Conversely, there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. And a few of the entries so far have hit on some of the points on my list.
     
  14. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Touche!
     
  15. Reiku Banned Banned

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    ''Look Vern---the actual answer is that we don't know, but there's no evidence for it.''

    Really> Are you reading the same stuff as we posted? How about my arguements, and the paper i posted>>>

    ''Touche!''

    I think she meant this in a good sense.
     
  16. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    This does not logically hold. If two particles with the same mass --- does not mean they must be made of the same amount of photons. We have shown very well how particles might be made of photons. It is a SWAG, but it shows your logic lacking here.
     
  17. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    From this point forward I will be deleting all posts that attempt to tell me that I am wrong, and matter actually IS made of photons.

    apologies to Vern and Reiku.
     
  18. Reiku Banned Banned

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    That's ok.
     
  19. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    But, of course, I DO invite Vern to (attempt to) shoot down the answers that are here.
     
  20. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    True that we don't know; but I think you have the evidence reversed. There's plenty of evidence supporting, none I've seen so far, refuting.

    Am I missing something??
     
  21. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly the way things should work in a dictatorship. Way to go BenTheMan.
     
  22. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    See previous posts please

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  23. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    How can I respond if you're going to delete my posts ??
     
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