Physics' EVIL

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  1. genep Guest

    Physics' Evil

    The Nonduality of Modern Physics gives us only one certainty: The Uncertainty Principle.

    The Uncertainty Principle tells us that all the particles that makes up our Universe define the word Uncertainty – so much so that all particles are also waves, and also probability-clouds. Particles are so Uncertain that an observation never determine anything, because the observer does.

    Physics – Physics' Uncertainty Principle – thus defines EVIL for us: Anything that tries to make something that is Uncertain appear certain – like the Universe – is EVIL.

    Any society, culture, cult, religion, science, theology or philosophy
    and especially God
    that tries to make Matter appear certain
    when it is absolutely Uncertain
    is EVIL. ​
    -- Wreally Reality
     
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  3. grazzhoppa yawwn Valued Senior Member

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    What connotations does evil have in your mind? I don't understand why you aren't using a less aggressive word like "obstacle" or "illusionary" or "incomprehensible" or "non-truth"

    Usually when something is categorized as "evil", the person who used the word desires it to be destroyed, eliminated, or shunned. Is this correct for your view of evil? Why so such an ostentatious choice of word?


    You are coming from a Buddhist perspective, no?
     
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  5. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    Some people on this forum would have you believe that humans have learned everything there is about the universe in 2000 years. And will defend it unshakably.

    But as the poster above mentioned, evil is a strong word. I would say its a Physics' delusion. Another paradigm shift is inevitable and when it happens those unable to change will be left behind to contemplate, HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN WRONG, I USED SCIENCE!!!
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Who says that ?
     
  8. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    Anyone who claims something is impossible is essentially telling me they know EXACTLY how everything works (hence we think weve learned everything). How else could they know its impossible?

    Thats what I mean, no one explicitly states it of course they are too proud.
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Are you saying that it is impossible that I know EXACTLY how everything works ?
     
  10. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    improbable
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I advice you to rethink that.. (see post 5).
     
  12. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    i realized where you were going before it was too late, see above.
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Then what is your point ?

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  14. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    That you dont know everything...
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I know.. :shrug:
     
  16. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    LOL well Im glad you are aware of that, but like I was saying earlier not everyone on this forum is so humble.

    They are damn set in their ways, convinced their science is right and absolute (which it may be at THIS point in time, but paradigm shifts happen and science HAS been turned on its head before).

    Im always looking forward, looking to what is coming next, because there is ALWAYS new knowledge coming. Granted many of the ideas we have about the universe may be right, I would put money that ALOT are wrong.
     
  17. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think it's as black and white as that.
    I think most of what we are "sure" of is actually for the most part true.
    Sure there may be some fine-tuning in the future or some parts of some theories might prove to be not entirely correct.
    I doubt much will be completely revises though.

    Of course there are things science doesn't have any answer to, or isn't sure about.. in the future we will get the answers for some of those things while others might remain obscure..
     
  18. Eidolan Registered Senior Member

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    I don't see why saying that uncertain things are uncertain amounts to evil. Its an inaccurate statement, but I don't see the logic. Couldn't it be good also or instead? What would make it evil and not good?
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It's neither evil nor good.
     
  20. genep Guest

    every word is relative, (what is evil to one person is godlike to another): so fukk the meaning of the word -- go beyond the meaning of the word for the Message that "meanings" can only obfuscate.
     
  21. genep Guest

    Smilesss.... """I don't see why saying that uncertain things are uncertain amounts to evil. Its an inaccurate statement, but I don't see the logic."""

    ...I suppose One could say...the Logic is quite SIMPLE here???
    ...Simply ANYTHING that has its Root/Foundation especially Our/Societies so called Educational-"Knowledge", that is based on "UNCERTAINTY Principles" - Physics, Education ...YET treats it, as a CERTAINTY, and/or Absolutes...THAT, is what makes it per say/ just a metaphor = ~Evil~
    ....Simply the Education and its So called Knowledge, that teaches/re-emphazies as IFFFFFFF it's Absolute-Knowldege ...spins Up, a Dualistic View/Perceptions....hence the expression, that leads, to the entertainment to Muse??? Smilinggg
    Last time, I ask my Teacher....Which part of Uncertainy, Illusion and or Hallucination ....I, to be Certain about ....He didnt think, nor agreed with me that THAT...was in itself worth a Bleeping Nobel-price ...LOLLLLL....cos he, was CERTAINNNNNN about ohhhhh sooo many Uncertainties / Hallucinations.....
    ....ohh and Btw....Words are JUSTTTT Words, Thoughts...and ONLY the Attached Judgment, that Judges a word such as "Evil" as even more EVILLLL, than its brother/sister Word,( any word) that is the Word "Bullshi(F)t...
    .... Now, what are they CERTAIN, or Uncertain about Words???

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  22. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Genep.

    Your opening post posed a very good general philosphical question.
    Is uncertainty an evil?

    I don't really understand your latest post.
     
  23. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    ELE - you seem confused between the scientists and the fundaligionists - scientists ALWAYS accept failure, accept the possibility that they may be mistaken, that science is fallible, and that it is open to revision - I have NEVER heard a scientist describe ANYTHING as impossible, they are much more circumspect with their language, usually usingn words like improbable, or unlikely - even when dealing with hard established physics or mathematics.

    Its the fundaligionists on the other hand who cannot accept revisions to their beleifs, have black and white views on what is possible and impossible, and cannot accpt the possibility of being wrong.

    Have you perchance not been paying attention?
     

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