Catholic, not Christian

Discussion in 'Religion' started by chris4355, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    I have heard talk of WASPS, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Ther situation in Europe was very different.
     
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  3. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Your from the other side of the Atlantic. In some places over here to say you are a Catholic is almost as dangerous as to say you are a Jew or even a Muslim - though these latter did not 'Kill Christ'. The 'you will burn in hell, I am one of the chosen vibe' I have gotten much more from Protestants.
     
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  5. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    the reason catholics destinguish between catholisium and "christans" is that the word "christan" is used almost universally now to refer to those fundermentilist churches and catholics HATE them. Anglican's can also refer to themselves as catholic and sometimes do and really there is not much difference between the anglicans and the roman catholics. its the fundies that they dont like, rather than eachother
     
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  7. chris4355 Registered Senior Member

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    thanks for the responses, very interesting viewpoints from a lot of you.

    I definitely could see how catholicism separates itself that way, but its interesting to me how protestants never corrected me from calling them christians...

    I guess it has to do with the fact that catholics are the minority, thus maybe making them feel pressured to tell others that they are "different".
     
  8. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    It seem that attitudes are different on your side of the pond and I was not aware of this.

    Over here, fom a Catholic perspective, there are Protestants, who are in error, and Catholics. To a Catholic mind the Reformation never happened;they regard it as a schism. i.e., Luther and co. broke away and refused to recognize the Pope's authority which is a cornerstone of Roman Catholicism. Most adherents do not think of this at all; they see themselves as Catholics and all other Christians as Protestants because that is what they have been taught.

    Ask a Catholic what his religious persusion is and he will say Catholic. Ask a Rrotestant the same question and he will say Christian or Baptist and so on.
     
  9. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    myles do you live in irland by any chance?
     
  10. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Not for the last fifty years. But what I have said is generally true because what I have described is an integral part of Catholicism. They may not shout it from the rooftops but Ctholics are taught to believe they are in a priveliged position vis a vis all other Christians. Like I said , the will argue for Apostolic succession, the Pope's infallibility when he makes ex cathedra prouncements and so on. This attitude is not confined to Ireland. It is part of mainstream Roman Catholicism.
     
  11. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    thats interesting

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    my family IS catholic and they HATE the pope, infact most catholics i know do
    most catholics in australia routinly ignore the pope and the vatican especially when your talking about using contraceptives ect. George pell (the cardinal of sydney) is more dispised INSIDE the church than outside it and the move to go back to pre vatican 2 is most unwelcome BY CATHOLICS
     
  12. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    I know what you mean and , to some extent, the ruling on birth control is ignored by lots of couples. They will say it is a matter of conscience but the Church regards the use of artificial aids to birth control as sinful.

    But if you look at the situation in sub-Saharan Africa, where people are less sophisticated conformity is the rule.

    You may be aware that the Church allows the use of the so-called rhythm method. It involves diariews and thermomenters and is generally regardedas unreliable.
     
  13. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    myles your arguing with the wrong person, i have no respect for the church at all. my family has no respect for there atitudes on birth control either and yes i belive that if they wish to remain in the church the burden is on THEM to force the church through protest and all the other political means to change the church's atitude on that issue and on there attitude to homosexuality rather than just sitting around bitching.

    that being said i just thought i would point out the difference between church policy and catholic CULTURE i surpose
     

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