Proposal: That sex without consent is always rape.

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You are a rapist for having sex with someone who gives you both implicit and explicit consent to sex, if one or even both parties had been drinking prior to the consent being given.

That sounds like a start for a topic.

 

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Just to remove any lingering questions...

YES!!!

 

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Are you incapable or unwilling to post something other than strawmen?

 

randwolf, you are being pressured by JamesR. to say "yes", think of the consequences of the word "always" in that statement.

 

Umm, James, this has possibilities. What do you think?

 

Randwolf to be compleatly honest it wasnt you i wanted to go up against, it was ABS and Kadark.

im just as tired as james of chacing them around trying to bash some sence into there heads. ABS especially pisses me off because his atitude sabotases any chance of a decent debate on mens issues because he keeps turning them into his anti feminst crusade.

THATS why i jumped in the second i saw this thread, i assure you it had nothing to do with you

 

I know draq, but I more believe the way it is phrased then I want to nitpick. However, as you know, "always" is never, or hardly ever, true.

 

13. You are a rapist if you 'nag' her for sex. Because you manage to ply an eventual 'yes' from a weary victim doesn't mean it's not rape. You are a rapist.

14. You are a rapist if you try to circumvent her "No" by talking her into it. She's not playing hard to get, and, even if she IS it's not YOUR responsibility to 'get' her. You're still a rapist.

 

well than withdraw your "yes".

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If you want to debate me, James, then I'm entitled to know why you want to debate me. Where are the posts of mine that are so disturbing as to warrant a special thread of its own targeting them?

Tick, tock.

Kadark the Revered

 

lol angry bell sprout, you live up to your nick

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Randwolf...they are sweet-talking you so that you stay on their side...dont get carried away

 

That's total bullshit!! Then I get raped all the time.

 

Your original challenge is bullshit James and you know it. What did you actually expect to accomplish here? You want the bragging rights to say that no one would debate you that nonconsensual sex is not rape? This is typical of radicals. Take a topic, spin it and see if anyone can follow. Forget it James....

 

I just don't understand how you can call them radicals?

 

What implied? We were clearly discussing explicit consent. Do you have a problem with sex between two adults if the female had a beer prior to saying "please fudk me"? What if she had two beers? And does it matter if it is the female? Get real with your reactionary BS.