I actually have to disagree with you here, as the Space Marine's standard weapon is a bolter, which launches explosive bullets. I mean, the lasgun, the least powerful weapon in the 40k universe, can take a human's arm off.
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Hehehe, funny. However incorrect yet again. Incorrect again, depends on the explosion and the rocket propulsion mechanism. Powerful enough charge would take it hypersonic quickly. Actually from what i can gather the TNT was in one area as it has a pretty effective blast radius. If it was c4 it would need to pread out as though C4 is four times as powerful as the same weight of TNT in destructive potential the blast radius is smaller. However a nuclear device DIRECTLY correlates to the rated explosion of TNT, a 100 ton nuclear blast would appear similiar in size to the blast you saw there in the video. Or were you completely unaware of how nuclear weapons were classified. Some commanders do use them. Some commanders prefer Artificer armor which provides similiar protection. You really should read up on the rules more. Actually, I remember the novel quite well. one of my favorites. True all had jumppacks for emergency movement, but only command and scout troops used them extensively. Marauder troopers used them to clear obstacles or for quick relocates. Some veteran units actually were composed primarily of command and scout suits, but they were rare. Kinda like the SPace marine chapters were Assault marines are very common. A one kiloton nuke is enough to level most cities. 5 would be enough take a larger city. 100 tons would be the ideal weight for extermination and normal small unit tactics. That come back with no-nuke order would be an extermination order. though why they did not just drop a big nuke we'll never know. Oh, dude you read too much in how the average soldier feels and assumed the leadership felt the same way. Any grunt out there can tell you that is not always the case. Rangers are "never-leave-a-man-behind-type" in our modern military that correlates to MI's attitude, but let me assure you we have sacrificed soliers in order to win a battle we could have just as easily done a less dangerous way. Omaha beach is prime example. We hit one of the hardest place on the coast to show the Germans we would break them no matter what. Yes, I do know the very thing you are saying. But it does not make them warriors. It still makes them soldiers. Warriors are something different. Don't be too sure. Some faked orders, some high ranking officer could do much more damage than the Horus Heresy ever did to the Emperor. In things like that it is not the grunts that are the problem but leaders.
Bogun would be called Chaos in W40K and there are Space marines who serve that power. And sith swords are not much better than a vibroknife, except they can block lightsabers. Of course a Psi-Sword would just cut right through them and don't start me on rune weapons.
Starship 'Excellence' Troopers Hehehe, funny. However, you are incorrect once again... :bugeye: I wonder how much more post space we're going to waste with this uselessness. Your entire argument is moot compared to mine, as majority of it is based on what you 'think', which need I remind you, has no bearing on the convincibility of it. I am baffled at your ability to be so vainglorious in your opinionated argument. Your conceited attitude is more overbearing than your debating abilities. And how are you making this assumption? The fact that it is self-propelled through the air through a solid fuel rocket is testament that the speeds of a bolt reach nowhere beyond the Mach 5. I don't care how sophisticated or 'powerful' the rocket is, you cannot honestly tell me with a straight face that such a round can move that fast. The bullet's initial speeds would propel it perhaps near 4,100 feet per second (Mach 3.75). Someone might have to check me on this, but I believe the fastest missile ever created moved around Mach 4.5, and that was with a helluva lot of fuel. Compared to a bolt bullet (.50 cal), with its chambered sections (launching charge, fuel, impact charge, piercing tip, hell not to mention the thickness of the metal case), the solid based fuel is very meager. Unless you're going to throw me some made up chemical compound, which they did with the armor, there's no way you're going to yield a projectile with enough force to breach Mach 5, and that's being lenient. I am aware of the 'nuclear weapons yield classification'. Are you aware of the exact tonnage of a micro-nuclear warhead? You keep saying 'from what Heinlein described', but as I also am familiar with the novel, your personal opinion is jack squat with no backings on the yielding strength versus mine. Still you have not proven the niche or superior viability of Terminator armor out on the field. Wasn't only emergency movement, even with the several chutes they unload to slow their decent, they would use their jump jets for the final landing and hopping of buildings. And do you remember this quote by Sergeant Jelly: "Platoon! By leapfrog! Forward!" This was stated after every troops had landed from outside their capsule and was directed for the main force, not Scouts and Command suits. In fact, every facet of MI life revolved around 'on the bounce', which directly correlated to the trained action on the field of all soldiers. All troops, including the Marauders, had jump jets designed for ease of travel, hence Rico who fielded a Marauder in the beginning, but outfitted into a Command when he went career, or officer. With both, he 'hopped' the fields. Read your damn book! Micro-nukes are preferred over regular nuclear armaments as it has low radiation and harmful after residues after the explosion. So it's ideal for destroying your enemy with the strength of a nuclear weapon, but without harming the environment beyond the impact crater and heat. That said, Heinlein wanted something as strong as a nuke without its ill side-effects. If these weapons are indeed weaker than conventional explosives, then he would have just used them in the form of a launched missile/rocket. And yes, C4 and dynamite were both around during Heinlein's time. Hell, in the very beginning, Rico tossed a regular ol' bomb into the warehouse and annihilated it. Well, through the ease of flipping open my book, I have the yield levels of their micro-warheads: "It was just a peewee, of course, less than two kilotons nominal yield,[...]" Now I recall in your former post that you said you had 'no doubt' a kiloton nuke would shred a Space Marine. The ones they launch are about 'less than two', meaning it is more than a one kiloton explosion. There goes your Space Marines. And on their usage, Rico dropped down in the near beginning of the novel and launched off two from his Y-rack with ease on a contingent of enemy troops he wanted to frag on his own, for the heck of it. After launching those two, he had three more left. Gee, and he was only one trooper. So, if one kiloton nuke can slag a Space Marine easy in the blast radius, how many would 5 take out? You're mistaking WWII mentality with our modern military mentality. US Rangers did not exist during WWII, so there was no special group with the 'leave no man behind' creed. Do you want to compare the US revolutionary militia, Union army, and the WWI army? Are you saying with our modern military we still think like the past? When the shit hit the fan in Somalia, the US immediately attempted recalling all their troops and created a massive UN/US force to pull their asses out of the fire. Now, the MI are light years ahead of the bureaucratically plagued military of the US. Rico got 5 lashes, the toughest administrative punishment short of court martial, for not checking with his HUD in determining distance of his comrades when unloading a simulated micro-nuke during training at Camp Currie. What you read must have been when many of them died during training. That was training, they knew the dangers and hardships in becoming MI. Remember, you can resign ANYTIME (except during a court martial), even five minutes before a drop with no consequences. Being a citizen is something your work for. The military can't make them, force people to become them, or even keep them in staying. This was based all on one's personal choice in taking the risk of becoming a fully fledged soldier. As long as someone has a fighting chance of being able to survive, the MI made sure that they got him back on the boat to the ship. And the administration is made of former MI, Navy, etc., they feel the same degree of responsibility even though they went up the ranks. Read up on Operation Royalty and see its objectives and why it was so important. Oh do pray tell me what makes a warrior different from a soldier. Don't give me that bull. The difference in becoming Chaos and destroying everyone contrary to you is hardly the same personal choice as a command to destroy an 'enemy' building which ends up being a friendly. [Renrue]
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Imagine Strike Freedom Gundam piloted by Darth Revan. Gundams weren't really warriors, they are Mobeil Suits, so Shin Auska, and Kira next to the Sith.
