Child Beauty Pageants

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by shorty_37, Apr 17, 2008.

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Do you think child pageants like these sexualize children?

Poll closed Apr 27, 2008.
  1. Yes I do

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  2. No I don't

    12.0%
  1. Bells Staff Member

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    I too used to play dress-up with my mothers make up, clothes, shoes, jewelry, etc. It was part of childhood.

    What makes this so different is that this is not play. This is a professional business and these kids are being exploited to make money. They are primped and preened and some are forced onto the stage with threats of violence if they get a step wrong or don't smile enough or look at the judges. All for that trophy and the cash rewards. It is a serious business and it should not be. Children should be allowed to be children.
     
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  3. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Yep.
     
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  5. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I noticed (Q)'s quotes given by parents who postulated to the media on the virtues and upright distinctions their daughters would gain by entering such beauty contests: interviews given after the fact, of course.

    A parent with some virtue, and encouraging her daughter to maintain a somewhat upright distinction. But these things never get applauded much now-a-days, do they? —unless it serves to mask and embellish a base nature.
     
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  7. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Our visceral response comes from a parent's need to protect children. We all kno that little girls love dressing up and no one is saying it's wrong,

    Consider, would you let your five-year old daughter be dressed and made up to look like an adult, following which she would walk sexily in public with goodness knows how nmany perverts watching and taking photos or making videos of her ? Forget the parents' motivation; these kids are being robbed of their youth.
     
  8. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Of course not. And I agree. I was just trying to home in on why this is any different than my kids playing dress up. Clearly it's in the forced nature of it. Parents forcing their children into a professional, paid modelling atmosphere. And it begs the question: Who are the consumers of this form of "entertainment" anyway? What does anyone get out of seeing kids made up to look like, as one poster put it, little "whores"? I don't get it.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Are all the children forced? I see way too many assumptions here.
     
  10. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    So what if they're not?
     
  11. Bells Staff Member

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    Most of these pageants start from when the child is 1. Do you think a 1 year old is able to consent to being ferried from pageant to pageant? After a while, it becomes normal to them since they don't know that it is not normal to be constantly paraded in front of complete strangers and being made to perform. You look at some of the images in the background at these pageants and it is blatantly clear. Some of these kids are in tears and do not want to go out on stage, but they are not given a choice. One mother commented that some gave their children Red Bull so they perked up on stage.

    I seriously doubt any of these mothers would simply pack up and go home if their child said they wanted to go home.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Again, is this the norm? Most media I see in the west is highly selective, so I rarely trust them. Has anyone actually ever been to one of these pageants?
     
  13. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    and? besides israel is closer to the east-our sports teams always play in europe for example.
     
  14. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    and the media in the east isnt biased at all.
     
  15. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Sam only consults sources with the Right Hand of the God of Truth[sup]TM[/sup] seal of approval.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, I'm merely aware of the current trend in science to present only those facts that fit the hypothesis.
     
  17. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    What's that got to do with media reporting?
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its clearly one sided?
     
  19. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    youre funny.
     
  20. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Whos or which side? What's the agenda?
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Just realistic

    Lets look at an objective study (the one that (Q) posted)
    So clearly money is not the main factor.
    That does not sound like sexualisation.
    Neither does this.
    Nope not this either.
    Now that is interesting.

    So what is it?
     
  22. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    that explains why your sources are always objective.
     
  23. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    That's a good scientist.

    So, what does this study tell us? It tells us what parents, who like to put their kids in pageants, think about pageants. How revealing.

    I wonder what a broad sampling of the kids opinions might be?
     

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