Child Beauty Pageants

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How could any decent person disagree with you. These people are sick and I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can fail to see that.

 

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I wonder when Sam will begin to draw conclusions between child pageantries and the treatment of prisoners in Gitmo.

Wait for it...

 

:bravo:

 

That. Is. Fucking. Sick.

Completely agree, that's not something for a child to worry about. They'll have time enough when they're 18 to worry that they're fat/not pretty enough.

They should be allowed to be kids, not forced to be short versions of adults.

 

" Gaining poise and confidence is cited most often by parents as the reason for putting their child into these contests. "She learns skills such as going out in a crowd, not to be shy, and to be herself while people are watching and focusing on her," one mother noted.

"You see this a lot among people on the lower-income and education scales," Levey comments. "They want their kids to learn skills that are needed to move up the social scale."

A high percentage of parents said they enter their children into beauty contests so they can meet others. "Pageants help my daughter make friends," one mother noted.

Other parents put their children into the competitions because they themselves found them to be helpful. "Pageants were a positive experience for me," another mom commented. "I became less shy, learned about public speaking, gained job interview skills, and got rid of a heavy Maine accent."

http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/06.08/beauty.html

 

Mine too! The whole thing is disgusting. I don't understand how anybody could defend this, unless they are just as sick as that parents that are doing this to their kids. I think the poll says it all! :bugeye:

 

I think this kid is great!! Alot of work put into that. Difference is she looks much older than these 4,5,6 yrs old in the pageants. She isn't made up to look like a prostitute, and she isn't being judged on how pretty she is.

So you can't even compare this to the Child Pageants

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:thumbsup: Pathetic isn't it. Funny thing though, this kind of off topic posting, trollling isn't allowed in her Biology threads. :bugeye:

 

how about not labeling us as westerners :shrug:

at least will make us pretend you are not some bigot.

 

What these kids are being pushed into can hardly be compared to normal childish behaviour. Did your mum encourage you to dress up, buy you special clothes and so on before parading you in public ? I guess not.

Whether these parents are stupid, greedy, living through their kids or whatever, in no way lessens that fact that these competitions are sick. They should be condemned without reservation because the children pay the price in the long run. There is a sense in which it could be argued that they are groomed by their parents in the way that paedophiles groom children online.

 

You're not looking at the big picture, dear. Acting like little midget whores is all fine and dandy, but doing so in front of cameras, and thousands and thousands of people, borders on the obscene.

But (Q) got the biggest glimpse yet: it's all about the prize money.

 

The youngest kids I have seen on those shows are 5 years old but not all videos are available online. (Its not a kids show, they have adults, handicapped and elderly people as well, its a weekly theme)

http://www.screenindia.com/old/20010720/tvcover2.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUd-u8Wii-E

I think it also depends on how people view such stuff. I agree that some of them are a bit extreme in makeup etc, but its a competition, some people will always go overboard. Are they representative of all parents and all girls?

Seems to me, they are being vindicated by judges who select the most made up girls, that is actually the message that brings in more made up girls.

I think (Q)'s post pretty much says it all.

 

You're a Middle Easterner.

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I have read all of your posts as I followed the progress of the debate. As so frequently happens, there is a danger of what I regard as the main point getting lost in a welter of detail. There are two issues being discussed.

The first is the contests themselves and the concommitant sexualization of children. Does anyone disagree that thre is something sick about this ?

Next we have the question of the motivation of the parents. Whatever motivates the parents is irrelevant as far as the likely effect on the children is concerned and does nothing to invalidate the first point.

It should be clear that we are talking about two seperate issues.

I have read a number of posts which make stupid comparisons with other activities in which children take part. We were invited to agree that in some sense young girls entering these contests could be compared with kids entering a spelling bee, to give one example. For each of these odious comparisons I have pointed out that the children taking part are presented as children, not as miniature glamour models.

Lastly, the point about money is probably true as far as the majority of parents is concerned parents but , as I have said, the parents' motivation does not change the fact that these contests are sick and probably a pervert's dream come true.

 

Why do we generally (myself included) feel such a visceral distaste for these things? My daughters loved to play dress-up. What makes this so different? The fact that they are being exploited by fanatical parents for money?

 

and I think that's a damn good question visceral! thanks!