Dawkins defends comments about "Alien Designers".

They happened to be atheists, and asians, and any number of other things that had nothing to do with their violent actions...

 

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I think destroying religious symbols and killing believers while forbidding religious practice, pretty much falls under athiest freaks following militant athiesm.

 

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No, they did those things because any kind of ideology except Communism was viewed as a threat. They had no love for Buddhists either, who are atheists themselves.

 

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Its why they banned religion and sent everyone to reeducation camps to unlearn religion. Nope, nothing to do with atheism.

 

Atheism isn't anti-religion. The Khmer Rouge were anti-religion. I practiced Buddhism for awhile, I see nothing about it that is contrary to atheism.

 

Did you perform the rituals for the dead?

Atheists can be anti-thiests. Look at Dawkins, who considers all theists as stupid and delusional people. Given enough power, he would enforce his beliefs, shutting down all practice of faith and oppressing theists and it would be entirely due to his atheism.

 

The dead need no rituals, and you are lying about Dawkins. He's only concerned about children having freedom of mind, freedom from unreasonable fear.

 

Yeah, everyone is so concerned about the children, especially that they should get rid of teh God Delusion. Nothing to do with being an atheist.

"Religious people suck dummies"

 

You think its a coincidence that it was repeated from the Soviet Union, to China, to Cambodia to Vietnam to North Korea and always resulted in forbidding religion and killing believers? And that in some of these places, people are still forbidden to worship openly on pain of persecution?

 

That's not simply atheism, that's the Socialist Revolution. They also don't believe in private property, but I wonder why you point to atheism as the cause of persecution and violence, rather than, say, collectivism or class warfare? Class warfare is a good one, because religions create a priestly class that do no useful work.

 

Coincidentally all of them were also athiests?

 

That's only an official position, they probably had all sorts of personal beliefs, desires, ambitions, fears, that were fulfilled by the revolution. In fact, the indigenous beliefs never died out, so how could that be?

 

But all athiests? Immune to fundamentalism?

 

Fundamentalism: The interpretation of every word in sacred texts as literal truth.

 

Yeah, except the ones they write themselves *cough cough*

 

It is a logical fallacy and intellectually dishonest to continue to claim that the results of communism are directly related to atheism. Of course, this has been explained to you MANY times and in GREAT detail, yet you continue to use it as an argument.

Communism is not atheism. Communism has an effect on all aspects of country, people and government. To make the claim that communism is atheism, you would also have to make the claim that their employment, transit, education, economical and many other systems are also based on atheism.

It is ridiculous in the extreme, Sam. Will you ever learn? :shrug:

 

The Khmer regime had no qualities that could be called atheism. They were anti-religion because that symbolized the previous feudal regimes. Monks were forced to work, as was everyone else. People were killed for all sorts of reasons: speaking a western language, picking berries, not being good enough farmers, wearing glasses, having an education, being gay... Obviously there was somthing going on here far beyond atheism. Pol Pot himself served in a Buddhist monastery at one time.

 

Like Richard Dawkins was educated in a Methodist school? Still you'd have to admit that banning ALL religion sort of kinda sounds like an atheist gone berserk. Like CLOSE DOWN ALL FAITH SCHOOLS!!!

 

No, the Khmer would have killed Dawkins too, for being an intellectual. In fact, having this discussion would be grounds for executing all of us (as well as all members of Sciforums).

 

I think once they found out he was in favor of removing all religion from society and shutting down all religious institutions they would have elected him president.