Why is the murder rate so high in Jamaica?

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  1. alexb123

    alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    Some areas of Jamaica experience high levels of violent crime. Jamaica has had one of the highest murder rates in the world for many years, usually ranking third after Colombia and South Africa, according to UN estimates.[27]

    Jamaica's former Prime Minister P.J. Patterson described the situation as "a national challenge of unprecedented proportions".[28] In 2005, Jamaica had 1,674 murders for a murder rate of 64.10 per 100,000 people; that year Jamaica had the highest murder rate in the world.[29] The spate of gangland killings in the UK in particular, can be attributed to Yardie criminals illegally entering the country as part of the international drugs trade.[30]

    (Taken from wiki) So why is the murder rate so high?
     
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  3. Fraggle Rocker

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    This is a textbook example of the Law of Unintended Consequences. When our out-of-control government decided to launch a Czarist campaign against recreational drugs, Jamaica became a natural source for marijuana. It has a huge domestic industry and a reasonable public attitude toward ganja, and unlike Mexico it's not a U.S. puppet state that we can saturate with herbicides. The network and the contacts were established in the late 1970s.

    Then in the early 1980s, the Baby Boomers started getting older and wanted a drug with a little more pep to it, and the popularity of cocaine soared. Coca leaf does not grow in Jamaica, but it's an attractive product for any black market businessman because of its higher profitability (it's sold retail by the gram instead of the ounce) and concealability (not only is it more compact but it doesn't smell). Expanding the existing network and contacts with the U.S., with a new network and new contacts with Colombia, was an obvious marketing strategy out of Business 101A.

    And here's where the law of supply and demand kicked in, a law that governments do not respect (and often pretend they have the power to repeal) because it is not one of their own creation. If you make a popular commodity illegal, its business shifts to the black market. The risk and profit attract criminals, and the inability to resolve disputes through the legal system results in violence. Well I hardly need to explain this to any American, because we saw it all during our failed experiment with alcohol prohibition in the early decades of the last century.

    As the drug trade embraced a drug that was highly illegal in Jamaica, a business with a strong core of family farmers and Rastafarians who used their own product to reinforce their pacifism was taken over by genuine gangsters. Predictably, the killing began.

    Jamaica is an unfortunate victim of the War on Drugs, but it's hardly the worst. Afghanistan is the producer of 90% of the world's opium poppy crop and heroin is an $18 billion world market. In Afghanistan this business is not run by gangsters because the country has an efficient outlawed organization that's larger, more powerful and more popular than the government: the Taliban. The profits from heroin directly fund anti-American terrorist activities.

    The War on Drugs keeps the War on Terrorism going. What a sweet deal for our government. They can continue using both as excuses to curtail our freedom.
     
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  5. Search & Destroy

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    I come from St. Croix, a US territory in the Caribbean. We have had in the past the highest ratio of murders per population in the US, and might still be.

    It is all gang related violence. Islands are small, communities are tied together. If a police officer always has a cousin that committed the crime,he always looks the other way.

    The public schools suck. There are fights with knives or guns going on all the time. The kids don't want to go to college, they want to make money. There is reputation, and all sorts of things that come with a life of crime. It is very appealing to almost anyone growing up there.

    The government is corrupt. You can call the police and they might never show. I got robbed 6 times in a month, neighbors taking down license plates and all - nothing ever happened.

    You step foot in the wrong part of town (just a few blocks away from where the white folks hang) and you will get robbed without blinking.
     
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  7. LORD_VOLDEMORT

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    Try being a gay male/female who is against gender roles in Jamaica.You might not make it to the age of 25:shrug:
     
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  8. John99

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    Reality check for Fraggle. Red Stripe and Rum.

    :crazy:

    Thats fantasy 101.
     
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  9. Vinyard

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    Probably because there are so many black people in Jamaica, anybody consider that?
     
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  10. draqon

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    Yea...why is murder rate so high in Jamaica?

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  11. Vinyard

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    Probably because they're all a bunch of dope heads bent on killing each other over something stupid like weed!
     
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    or maybe...its because they are high already ...

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    Or maybe its because they are black...
     
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    stop being racist.

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  15. Vinyard

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    One white terrorist organization for how many islamic terrorist organizations? How much violence in africa, how high murder rate in jamaica??? Look at the statistics! Look at areas of USA where the black population is high, shit man, violence spikes in those areas!
     
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    and look were white man has been so far...in all of those places. A puppeteer controlling people
     
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    Proof that blacks are ignorant and easy to control by the smarter more advanced white man!
     
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  18. Enmos

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    :bugeye:
    Who are you ?
     
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  19. Vinyard

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    What the fuck do you care?
     
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    I'm just such a caring person..
     
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  21. Bells

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    I am going to hazard a guess and say that you do not include yourself in the "more advanced white man"? Because at the moment, you're just coming off as a backward redneck.

    Bleh.. it would be interesting if racists even had an ounce of intelligence that would make the debate at least interesting. But all you are capable of coming out with is:

    "Or maybe its because they are black..."

    And you dare comment on their ignorance?

    HAHA!

    You are basically taking the stance that one's skin pigmentation is somehow connected to their intelligence. I'm guessing you never, ever go in the sun, lest you become even more idiotic as your skin darkens with a tan?
     
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  22. Vinyard

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    Is petty insulting the best you can do?

    * According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes
    (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are
    inter-racial crimes.


    * Most victims of race crime—about 90 per cent—are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of
    Surveying Crime Victims", published in 1993.


    * Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared
    with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.


    * Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is
    only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an
    extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.


    * According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders
    involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.
     
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  23. Vinyard

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    Oh, maybe I'll start a new thread... Why are blacks more violent than whites.
     
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